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Doug, he literally said he’d end the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia invaded and the pipeline was blown up. That would get a conviction in court all day.

My dude the US had diplomatically blocked it for years before finally relenting at some point not long before the war. Pretty sure that was the implication of Biden’s assessment, the US would resume and increase its diplomatic opposition.
 
For anyone interested, deep sea divers are integral to pipeline construction and repair. Not sure why they couldn't lay dynamite too. I have a friend (best storyteller I've ever met in terms of describing things) whose father actually was a lead on one of the first major North Sea pipeline projects (my buddy is in his late 60s now), the descriptions of how these pipelines were constructed then is pretty wild.

But yes, there are people working for private biz that do the kinds of things that would make simply transporting dynamite or some other explosives a relatively simply task compared to the other things they can do. I assume for a few million bucks a few might be willing to blow up a Russian pipeline.


  • Saturation Divers: Saturation divers are highly trained professionals who work in extreme diving conditions such as deep-sea or offshore oil and gas operations. They live in hyperbaric chambers on diving support vessels for extended periods, undergoing saturation diving. Saturation divers perform tasks such as construction, welding, inspection, and repair at great depths for prolonged durations.
Technology has changed so much. If you haven’t seen Men of Honor, it’s a great movie based on the life of a real Navy diver. (stars Robert DeNiro and Cuba Gooding, Jr)
 
Technology has changed so much. If you haven’t seen Men of Honor, it’s a great movie based on the life of a real Navy diver. (stars Robert DeNiro and Cuba Gooding, Jr)
Mighty Ships is a Discovery Channel show that focuses a lot on cruise ships. But they do cover other ships and the technologies are amazing. There’s one ship they covered that laid the pipelines to deliver gas from the North Sea bed to the European coast line. Most of the work is done remotely from the ship. Theres another ship that moves and deploys an entire oil rig on its deck rather than towing them as previously was done. It partially submerges itself when the rig is in place. Cool stuff and the lengths we now go to get energy is impressive and a little scary.
 
Joetato gets pressed by a Reuter’s journalist Friday about his use of the word “illegal“ when describing Laken Riley’s accused killer. He mumbles, bumbles, fumbles and then blurts out that technically he‘s not supposed to be here! You have to laugh or you’d cry.
 
Except it wasn’t “diplomatically blocked”, it was blown the F up. What a coincidence….

Which is of course not evidence the US did anything.

I realize this is lost on everyone here, but it’s actually repairable. So the US is risking a huge international incident (and some might say nuclear war) to knock out a pipeline for 12 months …

Again, there’s a reason no one is connecting the US to any actual direct evidence of the explosion.

Btw, this fact implies either Ukraine (already at war with Russia) or a non state actor is responsible. Of course you can reject the implication, no one has been established to be responsible and as of yet, I don’t think we are close to that point.
 
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Dtrain should think the NY case is all about not prosecuting laws that don’t matter. That law was designed to protect investors when there’s losses and there were none in regard to any of these loans.

I‘ve worked in several places that were bought out and overvaluing assets to lenders is what happens. It was laughable what junk equipment was valued at to get bank loans. And in the end everybody made money and was happy!

It’s like you applying for a home equity loan and trying to maximize the value of your property knowing you can pay it back. If that prosecution isn't a flashing red light to you about what the goal is you’re not paying attention.

Just the timing of all these cases should raise your eyebrows.
I have never applied for a home equity loan but it is my understanding is that you need an appraisal in most cases. The appraisal selection process is a blind one so I don't understand how the average person can manipulate the process.
 
I have never applied for a home equity loan but it is my understanding is that you need an appraisal in most cases. The appraisal selection process is a blind one so I don't understand how the average person can manipulate the process.
I am just an average person who met with an appraiser once that was scheduled to visit my property. I successfully sold that person why my property was worth what I was looking for by pointing out the features and benefits of my property versus his comparisons.

Major commercial property investors often do this over dinner. It literally happens every day.
 
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The Republicans could nominate any one of millions of candidates. They selected the one most susceptible to lawfare in large part because he fomented riot at the Capitol and withheld documents that weren’t his, solicited false Affidavits in connection therewith, and tried to destroy the evidence.

It is not subverting democracy to face consequences for selecting the worst candidate alive.
So, the two legal convictions in NY are not political?
 
So, the two legal convictions in NY are not political?
The decision that ended in $380 mil or so and due almost immediately was 100% political. The nutty Dems who tried to play god with the 14th amendment from their states, attempting to impact a national election, got their butts kicked 9-0. I mean, that's a forfeit in the MLB. LOL. That's how obvious they are at trying to end our democracy and turn it into a 1 party rule. They protested the Neocon W. He was illegitimate. They'd do the same to RDS.
 
Are illegals coming through the southern border delivering fentanyl?

Impossible to argue with people who twist logic like this. First, drug usage is voluntary. Second, the final point of delivery of such substances is overwhelmingly from an American. Third, smuggling drugs is a separate problem that is very likely to exist without massive illegal border crossings. Fourth, if you could shut down illegal entries, drug traffickers would use the types of entry more common 30-40 years ago (boats, planes, etc.).

I could keep going on, but murder and illegal drug ODs are pretty darn different.
 
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I assume no-one took a video of this incident, but I think a combination of evidence(including the POTUS on tape) points at the US.

The fever swamps keep speaking and America keeps getting dumber.

Maybe the coming election all the illegal ballots and vote harvesting mules will be Ukrainian? It would square so many circles.
 
So, the two legal convictions in NY are not political?

Both were civil cases, one brought by a private individual. You may not like that case, but the plaintiff isn’t the state or some Dem politician.

But sure … the NY AG case was politically motivated. We’ve repeatedly discussed this. I also note how ham fisted it was for Trump to stick with all his lies about valuations in the case and not to have worked to resolve it much earlier (similar cases against Trump related entities have been resolved in the past).

Trump painted a huge target on his back for years and is now America’s victim as he takes arrow after arrow. Kinda wild!
 
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The decision that ended in $380 mil or so and due almost immediately was 100% political. The nutty Dems who tried to play god with the 14th amendment from their states, attempting to impact a national election, got their butts kicked 9-0. I mean, that's a forfeit in the MLB. LOL. That's how obvious they are at trying to end our democracy and turn it into a 1 party rule. They protested the Neocon W. He was illegitimate. They'd do the same to RDS.

All doing a Trump strategy to RDS would do is make him stronger as a candidate because it would be unjustifiable on every level. Trump’s con artistry and playing fast and loose with every rule makes him an easy target.

It is not like Biden is getting a pass on being investigated. If Trump wins, maybe there’s not enough on Joe, but there will be prosecutions of people around Old Joe.
 
I have never applied for a home equity loan but it is my understanding is that you need an appraisal in most cases. The appraisal selection process is a blind one so I don't understand how the average person can manipulate the process.
It is a waste of time arguing with him. His cult leader can do no wrong. It is the prosecutors persecuting him, it is the FBI persecuting him. It is the court's persecuting him. Porno stars he paid are lying about him. The world's greatest victim with a persecution complex and the cult followers swallow it. Amazing!!
 
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Living rent free buddy! Honestly, that stuff is really tame. Fortunately, I have a life and choose to allocate my time to better activities than doing a quick search on you. Have a pleasant Saturday.
 
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I am just an average person who met with an appraiser once that was scheduled to visit my property. I successfully sold that person why my property was worth what I was looking for by pointing out the features and benefits of my property versus his comparisons.

Major commercial property investors often do this over dinner. It literally happens every day.
I am curious, what this pre or post the great recession? In any event, there is no issue pointing out attributes that may be overlooked during the process. However, Trump did much more than this.
 
The decision that ended in $380 mil or so and due almost immediately was 100% political. The nutty Dems who tried to play god with the 14th amendment from their states, attempting to impact a national election, got their butts kicked 9-0. I mean, that's a forfeit in the MLB. LOL. That's how obvious they are at trying to end our democracy and turn it into a 1 party rule. They protested the Neocon W. He was illegitimate. They'd do the same to RDS.
Presently, Trump is doing more to make this country one party rule than the Dems. He has made the Republican party a joke. If Trump were a younger man, I would be more concerned for the long term.
 
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I am just an average person who met with an appraiser once that was scheduled to visit my property. I successfully sold that person why my property was worth what I was looking for by pointing out the features and benefits of my property versus his comparisons.

Major commercial property investors often do this over dinner. It literally happens every day.
I’m not sure of the timeline of when Trump’s “fraudulent” loan activity took place but there have been times when lenders told appraisers what number they were looking for. Pre 2008 the lenders would offer people more than they wanted.

Even now you can negotiate the valuation of your property with lenders, appraisers, etc.
 
Presently, Trump is doing more to make this country one party rule than the Dems. He has made the Republican party a joke. If Trump were a younger man, I would be more concerned for the long term.
The same things would be doing done to DeSantis if he was nominated. When he appeared to be a threat to Trump the drum beats were already starting. Some fake news about Florida manipulating Covid data by a crazy lady. Contributions from Publix supposedly influencing where vaccines were rolled out in Florida, etc. Early vaccination of residents in certain DeSantis loving jurisdictions. He’s a more difficult target than Trump but I’m almost glad he didn’t win the nomination. The media would have turned a pretty honorable person into a Frankenstein.
 
It is a waste of time arguing with him. His cult leader can do no wrong. It is the prosecutors persecuting him, it is the FBI persecuting him. It is the court's persecuting him. Porno stars he paid are lying about him. The world's greatest victim with a persecution complex and the cult followers swallow it. Amazing!!
The timeline of all these investigations and indictments are just one big coincidence?

Like him or not there’s one thing that’s become crystal clear in my mind. The people that run this country aren’t interested in ceding control anytime soon. They started investigating Trump before he was elected on what’s turned out to be disinformation. If you think that was just accident and the rest that came after is real you’re extremely naive.
 
Which is of course not evidence the US did anything.

I realize this is lost on everyone here, but it’s actually repairable. So the US is risking a huge international incident (and some might say nuclear war) to knock out a pipeline for 12 months …

Again, there’s a reason no one is connecting the US to any actual direct evidence of the explosion.

Btw, this fact implies either Ukraine (already at war with Russia) or a non state actor is responsible. Of course you can reject the implication, no one has been established to be responsible and as of yet, I don’t think we are close to that point.
Your neighbor heard you and your wife screaming at each other last night. He heard you say that you’re gonna knock her ass out if she doesn’t shut up. She doesn’t shut up. This morning, he’s walking in from getting the mail as your wife walks out to grab the paper. He notices her massive black eye, which is of course not evidence that you did anything.

Got it…
 
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Your neighbor heard you and your wife screaming at each other last night. He heard you say that you’re gonna knock her ass out if she doesn’t shut up. She doesn’t shut up. This morning, he’s walking in from getting the mail as your wife walks out to grab the paper. He notices her massive black eye, which is of course not evidence that you did anything.

Got it…

Lol … creating false analogies doesn’t make your point better.

At some point we will get the truth, doubt it makes you look good.
 
The decision that ended in $380 mil or so and due almost immediately was 100% political. The nutty Dems who tried to play god with the 14th amendment from their states, attempting to impact a national election, got their butts kicked 9-0. I mean, that's a forfeit in the MLB. LOL. That's how obvious they are at trying to end our democracy and turn it into a 1 party rule. They protested the Neocon W. He was illegitimate. They'd do the same to RDS.
Talk about projection. Clueless.
 
I thought you were brighter than the Maga circle on the Board. However, I guess you buy tin foil by the case.
Between the legacy media, the Washington bureaucracy and academia they donate and vote overwhelming Democrat. 90% or more?. You really think they’re hatred of Trump or impending hatred of Desantis is just unbiased fact based opinion?
 
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I thought you were brighter than the Maga circle on the Board. However, I guess you buy tin foil by the case.
I‘m sure you consider DeSantis some kind of book banner taking away the freedoms of Floridians? So I gotta ask a question. I find it odd that Democrats think restricting access of certain materials to minors in publically funded institutions is a bad idea. BUT I’ve never heard a peep about those same minors being restricted to some of those same materials in movie theaters?
 
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False analogy? Not at all actually…
It’s the perfect equivalent.

Oh my.

Your analogy is something akin to there were American warships and frogmen in the area of the explosion a few days prior to it.

No such evidence exists. A bunch of complete idiots who are good at manipulating right wing talk radio and Internet loser listeners and readers repeat the same BS enough, they apparently know their audience is stupid enough to listen. It’s a really sad reflection on you all, but whatever. You keep promoting Gateway Pundit & Co., I will keep rolling my eyes and pointing out that your evidence is literally nothing beyond a likely diplomatic threat 9 months before the explosion.
 
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I‘m sure you consider DeSantis some kind of book banner taking away the freedoms of Floridians? So I gotta ask a question. I find it odd that Democrats think restricting access of certain materials to minors in publically funded institutions is a bad idea. BUT I’ve never heard a peep about those same minors being restricted to some of those same materials in movie theaters?
You really believe there are X rated books in the library's of elementary schools? You believe the Nazi Moms?
 
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