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That's fair. My intent in the post you quoted wasn't to be critical of (nor laud) the statements. Like you said, we really don't know what this is going to look like. Just spitballing:
Reasons to get directly involved in some way might be that there's a long standing human tragedy going on there and ending it would be objectively good (and iirc part of the agenda discussed in the campaign), and peace in the Middle East is in our long-term best interests. Another is to ensure whatever aid does get sent there is actually deployed to the benefit of the people there and isn't skimmed off by Hamas or other bad actors. Reasons not to get involved are mainly that interventions are a tricky thing and similar activities in the region have been very expensive in terms of blood and treasure and generally have not achieved the goals stated publicly to the American people.
If the administration is going to make our direct involvement conditional on hostilities terminating, it's still tricky, but decidedly preferable to going over there to win a war first, then rebuild something. We'll just have to see how it plays out. If both sides are agreeable to a postwar US presence it could easily be a good thing. If we just become a target of terrorism, not so good.
I don't know if it as a conscious strategy, but the administration is moving aggressively on many fronts which makes it difficult for the bureaucratic deep state/uniparty/(D)s to marshal their forces to defy POTUS and the administration.
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Christians make up about 0.05% of the population of Gaza and no one is talking seriously about “forcibly” removing anyone from there.
I don’t care about their religion. They shouldn’t be moved and certainly US troops shouldn’t be involved.
I don’t think Trump’s point is about troops. What he’s saying is rebuilding Gaza by throwing money into the place is a losing game. For each new building, we’ll get 10 new rockets made and ready to be fired at Israel whenever the next conflict erupts. Instead, the reconstruction will have to be done by trusted outside parties so the people get what they need and not what terrorists want.
edit: And the UN has proven they’re not a trusted outside party.
I’ll wait to make a judgment but if you think the Israelis don’t have an eye on that land….
When talking about American politics, there's no such thing as "Americans" and this thread is just one of a millions examples of that. Same thing in Israel. In well over 50 years, they've yet to figure out what to do with the West Bank. Some want to annex it, some want to spin it as a separate country (those are about the two most polar options imaginable) and some want to leave it as a "territory". Some want more land for Jews while others can't stand the thought of having another 3 million Arab citizens of Israel (Israel is about 20% Arab now).
So, yes, some have their eye on Gaza but that's likely a minority position. Our friend who lives in Israel I'm sure would say it's a minority view based on everything else she's said on what's going on now.
LOL they all are outraged by his plan, will not take Palestinians, Saudi Arabia will not do anything without assurance of a Palestinian state, Al Quida started because of U.S. troops stationed in Saudi Arabia, this will create a couple of million more terrorists. Unhinged!!!
This is a fair position but my point is those Gazans don’t want to leave Gaza. No one should force them to leave
US policy has created terrorists in other parts. The US just toppled Assad and basically let radicals walk into Syria (and remember that Israel just claimed parts of Syria).
The whole idea is insane. Also 180 degrees from what he campaigned on and which MAGA supports.
What’s that? What do you mean being part of the solution ? As in moving Palestinians out of their land?
I agree but you know he had Miriam addleson finance his campaign? We need money out of politics
Pay attention to who wrote this article.
The mental gymnastics are astounding.
If the US occupies Gaza, there will be US troops in Gaza. Is that what you voted for?
Trump is playing chess while some are still trying to figure out the color of their marbles.
Everything Trump says about the Middle East is designed to get people off their squares. We all know that region has been stuck in a disastrous status quo for decades. He wants the regional players to step up to the problem instead of staying in their bunkers and saying the UN can take care of it... just throw them some more money. The UN is the absolute worst option and Trump knows that. Saying US troops are a possible option is all about getting people in the region to do something different.
Could the end results be another Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe, the parts not behind the Iron Curtain !
I don't see why not, and tbh so far that's the sense I've gotten of what the administration intends as an approach, but it's still very early on and not much in the way of specifics has been articulated yet as far as I know. One thing we can count on now is that we have a POTUS who won't hide from questions. He also did a very good job this time surrounding himself with people who can articulate the administration's policies and actions. I'm guessing this one will fall under Rubio more than Hegseth.
More gymnastics.
Boy we’ve gone from America First and bring our troops home to let’s orchestrate policing and rebuilding the Middle East in just over two weeks.
I’ll ask again. Did you vote for US troops in Gaza?
It’s all bizarre. Maybe and hopefully just lip service from Trump after Netanyahu visit. Trump hates Netanyahu btw
There won't be US troops in Gaza just like there isn't a huge tariff on Quebec maple syrup.
It’s fascinating watching folks rationalize completely leveling a territory and relocating over a million civilians from their home so the US can occupy and rebuild the land.
I hope it was just bluster, but Israel owns Trump so not likely.
Many Americans are starting to notice this…I still haven’t gotten over Netanyahu goading us into war in the Middle East 30 years ago
