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This is an old article from 2015, but I find it of value to show the significance of the water issues and who caused changes to water, etc.

There is NO water management in California, neither in North (where they have dynamited multiple dams and lost the reservoirs from the dams) nor the HUGE concrete culverts in LA that direct 100's of millions gallons of fresh water into the Pacific when it rains and the runoffs aren't saved for later use.

There was another story of a burned out area. Cul de sac, resident didn't evacuate. Noted the wind and fire. Had a normal yard hose with home water, not hydrant. Noted embers on his roof, watered till they went out. Noted several other homes with small fires from embers. Used hose till it wasn't long enough. Neighbors returned they unified small bucket brigades and doused any homes threatened. Final score ? no homes lost !

Again NO FIRE ENGINES SEEN !
 
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I have a son with Cerebral Palsy. I don't think I could walk out the door. What a horrible scenario for her and her sonšŸ˜¢
If this doesn't bring tears to your eyes !

Sometimes there is nothing you can do. Several times I pulled up to MV accidents where the car was fully engaged in fire. The fire extinguishers we carried in the Troop car's trunk had no effect. Horrible thoughts.
 
I caught up this am and it sounds like they are getting the fires under control. They have been dousing and preparing the Eastern edge of the Palisades so it (hopefully) can't spread to the most dangerous area the fire likely would go.. They are doing similar in the other fire areas. With all the resources on the ground, even when the Santa Ana winds go back up they will be prepared this time.

My early post mortem is that it wasn't a question of if but a question of when. The Palisades went largely untouched for many decades, until they weren't. The lack of preparation, the massive errors like have one reservoir empty for repairs, lack of forest management, DEI focused city management, etc are hard to imagine. Crisis management needs to be planned in advance, not on the fly and this was a total system failure. The local residents know forest fires happen frequently in Calif and that the Santa Ana winds happen every year. Their state govt was focused on providing free services to illegal immigrants and Trump proofing California. I hope this wakes up many Californians that the current woke Dem govt has failed them and they need to start voting for competence and for people who will actually do the job they are elected to do.

ps. I read this am that Karen Bass was a finalist for Biden's VP pick in 2020. ??? They probably love Bass on the View.

pps. I reserve the right to delete this post if the fires get out of control in the coming days!!! Another reason for my optimism is I doubt any LA official is running the fire response anymore.
 

Don't let facts get in the way of your post.

Trump could really change the narrative around climate change, this is his opportunity. He should say the followingā€¦.

- Climate change is real, the climate has always changed. We have 8.2 billion people on the planet, and we have built concrete jungles all over it. Of course surface temperatures are going to go up a bit.

- We canā€™t control the temperature and shouldnā€™t try. We should mitigate the impact we have when reasonable.

- We need to focus more on access to clean, fresh water than oil. We used to worry we would run out of oil. Oil isnā€™t the enemy, in fact, the human race has progressed mostly because we have used the natural resources here on earth. Look at how the life expectancy of people has increased significantly since we started using oil.

- We have too many people living in areas that are not meant to have millions of people. Southern California shouldnā€™t have 23 million people. Itā€™s an environmentally fragile place that is prone to earthquakes, wildfires, etc.

- We will pay to help put your life back together, but not there in Southern California. Itā€™s an uninsurable, environmentally fragile place. We canā€™t put you back there just to have this same thing happen again. We will give incentives for you to move to parts of the country that have lower risk for disasters and more fresh water.
 
I caught up this am and it sounds like they are getting the fires under control. They have been dousing and preparing the Eastern edge of the Palisades so it (hopefully) can't spread to the most dangerous area the fire likely would go.. They are doing similar in the other fire areas. With all the resources on the ground, even when the Santa Ana winds go back up they will be prepared this time.

My early post mortem is that it wasn't a question of if but a question of when. The Palisades went largely untouched for many decades, until they weren't. The lack of preparation, the massive errors like have one reservoir empty for repairs, lack of forest management, DEI focused city management, etc are hard to imagine. Crisis management needs to be planned in advance, not on the fly and this was a total system failure. The local residents know forest fires happen frequently in Calif and that the Santa Ana winds happen every year. Their state govt was focused on providing free services to illegal immigrants and Trump proofing California. I hope this wakes up many Californians that the current woke Dem govt has failed them and they need to start voting for competence and for people who will actually do the job they are elected to do.

ps. I read this am that Karen Bass was a finalist for Biden's VP pick in 2020. ??? They probably love Bass on the View.

pps. I reserve the right to delete this post if the fires get out of control in the coming days!!! Another reason for my optimism is I doubt any LA official is running the fire response anymore.
Another recitation of the BS explanation found only on RW media. Try listening to the fire experts , Chiefs with 30-40 years of experience. I heard 4 on real media. It was the hurricane force winds they have never seen before which made fighting the fires impossible. "no matter how many more men, how many more trucks. how many hydrants, how much water, those wouldn't have made a difference".
 
- We have too many people living in areas that are not meant to have millions of people. Southern California shouldnā€™t have 23 million people. Itā€™s an environmentally fragile place that is prone to earthquakes, wildfires, etc.

- We will pay to help put your life back together, but not there in Southern California. Itā€™s an uninsurable, environmentally fragile place. We canā€™t put you back there just to have this same thing happen again. We will give incentives for you to move to parts of the country that have lower risk for disasters and more fresh water.
You are 100% correct. Florida shouldn't have 23,000,000 people, building along coasts, and in flood plains. But the politicians can't say no to the developers and their campaign contributions.
 
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Another recitation of the BS explanation found only on RW media. Try listening to the fire experts , Chiefs with 30-40 years of experience. I heard 4 on real media. It was the hurricane force winds they have never seen before which made fighting the fires impossible. "no matter how many more men, how many more trucks. how many hydrants, how much water, those wouldn't have made a difference".

Good god, your skull is extremely thick.

Of course they had seen winds like those before - that's why they have a name! Santa Anna!! Of course it is too late to do much of anything once the fire is lit and the winds are up.

That my brain-dead friend is why you have controlled burns, create fire breaks, and cull the undergrowth. You reduce the fire potential BEFOREHAND and the result is something you have a good chance to fight successfully and the damage is minimal.

Are you really this stupid? Seriously?

 
I just have to say even the people of LA must be pining for 12 NOON January 20, 2025.

The beginning of 2025 is an appropriate end to the 4 years of Biden destruction - DEI hires botching LA & New Orleans. Terrorist attacks in NO & Vegas. LA burning to the ground with the hopeless mayor in Africa and the Governor faking phone calls to Biden.

Meanwhile, Biden is celebrating his accomplishments which of late include freeing 9/11 terrorists, commuting the death penalty for the worst of the worst, giving tens of billions more to Ukraine to continue the war and on and on.

To think, even as LA burns, Jeff still says he is proud of his 2020 vote for Biden. Meanwhile, Stone thinks Florida is the screwed up state, not California.

8 more days....
 
Good god, your skull is extremely thick.

Of course they had seen winds like those before - that's why they have a name! Santa Anna!! Of course it is too late to do much of anything once the fire is lit and the winds are up.

That my brain-dead friend is why you have controlled burns, create fire breaks, and cull the undergrowth. You reduce the fire potential BEFOREHAND and the result is something you have a good chance to fight successfully and the damage is minimal.

Are you really this stupid? Seriously?

You are wrong no matter how many times you repeat the garbage you see/hear on RW media. They have NEVER had hurricane force Santa Ana winds. Santa Ana does not = hurricane force winds. Weeds or brush were heavy as they had record rainfalls, and then drought, not a drop, since June. Listen to experts, not FOX and Friends or Watters, pin heads. RW media read "BOMBSHELL" reservoir dry for repairs. Fire experts said it would have helped a little, but inconsequential. A bigger limitation was the 30" diameter pipe feeding the water supply which would not have handled the reservoir even if full.
 
To think, even as LA burns, Jeff still says he is proud of his 2020 vote for Biden. Meanwhile, Stone thinks Florida is the screwed up, not California.
I have said repeatedly over the last few years, Florida is turning into California, All those here agree. Too crowded, too much development , traffic insane, environmental disasters, home prices unaffordable, inability to insure, quality of life major drop. I think it might be inevitable that is the history of development in the U.S.
 
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