Uncoach said:

Canada has heavily subsidized some industries that makes them quite competitive with exports. One of my favorite guitar makers is Canadian. I thought Trump discussing Canada as the 51st state was pretty dumb. It was funny as hell though. Canadians acted against their own self-interests because Trump, which sounds familiar.

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Are Canadians the buyers of new Trump hats !

They got punked on the 51 State.

Whenever they say something is free, what they really mean is taxpayer funded. Colorado decided to offer free health insurance for non-citizens, and now they are coming after citizens for the bill.

When people say they don’t care about the billions spent on non citizens, know that they don’t care about how it impacts everyone else.

At least they acknowledge that we pay all the ER bills. Put that quote in GOP commercials. We pay for all of the expensive services for non-citizens, and yet, Democrats begged them to come and destroy budgets all around the country.

JeffT818 said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/younger-people-dont-want-to-work-in-manufacturing/

It looks like many young people don’t want those factory jobs. We will need more immigrants to fill them!

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Get a work visa. Don’t be here illegally.

ILisBest said:

I do not like the 51st state talk from Trump about Canada. It was dumb and really served no helpful purpose.
As the mad, butt-hurt Canadians will now harm their economy to make themselves feel better. It will not be great for us either, but harder on them. Such a waste. I have not bought anything from Canada since they Boo'd our anthem.


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Canada has heavily subsidized some industries that makes them quite competitive with exports. One of my favorite guitar makers is Canadian. I thought Trump discussing Canada as the 51st state was pretty dumb. It was funny as hell though. Canadians acted against their own self-interests because Trump, which sounds familiar.

dtrain79 said:

First, Ann Selzer isn't still polling, she retired after 2024 (and was most accurate in 2016 and 2020 with polls more favorable to Trump than others). Second, I believe she had Kamala up 3%.

Which was obviously wrong.

All the current polling showing Trump approval collapse could be wrong. I would think the right would hope those numbers are different come 2026 tho.

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Do you know what humor is? It’s why I posted it. It was sarcastic. Didn’t need a reference specifically to Selzer, who I already know retired. But now that we are here…She’s one of many pollsters who got things wrong. I don’t believe all of them. It depends on questions asked and who they ask. Also Trump gets 92% negative coverage from MSM. It’s inevitable people believe some of the negative, if that is all they soak in, and that does bring hos numbers down a bit. I will add that if you think Selzer is the only one who can put out a phony poll, I have a bridge for sale.

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JeffT818 said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/younger-people-dont-want-to-work-in-manufacturing/

It looks like many young people don’t want those factory jobs. We will need more immigrants to fill them!

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“Finley explains that the government providing benefits that create disincentives to work….”

Maybe, just maybe, we should stop doing this.

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It looks like many young people don’t want those factory jobs. We will need more immigrants to fill them!

bucshon said:

“I want a hike in minimum wage.”

“It’s okay to pay migrants slave wages”.

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Who said that ?

OhioIllini said:

think Rilla is right on this one. If we have US citizens who now don't want to work it's because we've created a system where we've essentially told them they don't need to and probably shouldn't anyway.

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Where is a sign of that? I never heard anyone say that. People don't work because they don't want to, mental health, substance abuse alcohol issues. Probably always has been that way. My mid-20 s year old son was working construction cleaning up homes damaged by a hurricane. The contractor tells him "you are a rarity'. My son asked him what he meant. "You are a white boy that wants to work, the rest just want to sit on the couch, do drugs and play games all day."

“I want a hike in minimum wage.”

“It’s okay to pay migrants slave wages”.

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OhioIllini said:

Stoney, who did all the labor in building states like Florida, Texas, and Arizona before we had a massive influx of foreign and, by and large, undocumented workers? I think Rilla is right on this one. If we have US citizens who now don't want to work it's because we've created a system where we've essentially told them they don't need to and probably shouldn't anyway.

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The U.S. ALWAYS had a massive influx of foreign workers.(we will skip the slavery era) My Grandfathers were two, worked as laborers. There were Irish waves, Jewish waves, Italian waves all provided cheap labor. The story of the U.S. All were treated as sub-human in many ways, and discriminated against to the extreme. They lived in the same ghetto neighborhoods and ran the streets together. That is why they dominated organized crime. That is why the sought to move up by athletics, trouble is the only professional sports were boxing and baseball. Those three groups of immigrants constituted boxing. They also did all of the unwanted jobs. Labor, mining, slaughter houses etc... There a large number of Italian immigrants that ended up in N.O. and Louisiana. I wondered why. They were brought out there to work the sugar plantations as they worked for less than the freed slaves and descendants. Nothing changes in the U.S. including taking advantage of immigrant labor, and hating immigrants.

ILisBest said:

Why is it important to rise it when the free market has been driving wages up?

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You have a point, and we see some of that. However, there are people that do not do well in a free market, marginal types, and there are areas, remote no free market to compete. There is one high school serving a consolidated three county system.

stoneaxe27 said:

Sold to whom? It was only a poll, and as you see, inconsequential.

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She sold out to try to influence the election to Kamala. Bad end of a career and only left wing insiders know why she did it. But the numbers were horrifically wrong.

stoneaxe27 said:

I agree that we need more worker visas, but first the US needs to rewrite the law to allow for more foreign workers to come and work. As for the myth that they are taking jobs from Americans is nonsense. It does not matter what the message is. Citizens will not work certain jobs--accept that reality. Plus in Florida, and probably Texas and Arizona, there are many jobs in the heat and the sun that most US citizens of European descent cannot perform. I know from first hand experience as does everyone else down here. As far as the assertion that involuntary servitude needs to end, I agree, but the business community and Republicans in office don't. Why is the federal minimum wage stuck at $7.25 per hour?

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Stoney, who did all the labor in building states like Florida, Texas, and Arizona before we had a massive influx of foreign and, by and large, undocumented workers? I think Rilla is right on this one. If we have US citizens who now don't want to work it's because we've created a system where we've essentially told them they don't need to and probably shouldn't anyway.

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