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Helluva year

Yeah. Where were the "due processors" on this forum then?

Why do you keep reading and reposting liars. They were flown to MV without their knowledge and were flown back to the mainland where they were told they were going before flown to MV. They were not deported. The RW cannot get by without constant lies.
 
I don't think Bezos is an idiot, but between WaPo and Amazon, he has a clown show going on right now. Let's not even mention the all-female astronaut crew that was nothing but a show.

 
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Florida can’t survive without them. You should have heard his supporters scream when RDS thought he was going to get rid of them several years back. All of his backers in agriculture and commerce put a quick end to that program .
Yet Florida continues to have net population GROWTH, despite having an active removal of illegal immigrants AND the elderly deaths per year.

I don't even see the States shrinking from global climate issues.
 
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This seems like big news, but I don't live in TX, so I'm not sure some of the news I;ve seen isn't jusy hyperbole.

 
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I think this is fair.

BO talking point memo:

So we're gonna begin tonight with the polling, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. ABC News poll, so-so poll. And the key to this is 2,454 adults, not registered voters, not likely voters, adults. When you have just adults, the awareness of the issues goes down because you don't have a lot of people who are actively invested in our system. It could be anybody. Now, I don't mean to diminish these people, but pollsters usually go for registered voters. That's what they usually go. The first question is job approval, 39% approved, 55% disapproved. That's the lowest number in an ABC News poll, first 100 days since 1945. That would be Harry Truman. Not a good showing there. Second question, the economy since Trump took office, better 21, worse 53, same 25. This is the key to the poll, okay? So 53% of Americans feel they're worse off economically, their money, than they were under Joe Biden. Why do they feel that way? Stock market. That's why. And that is what is missing in the analysis. If the stock market, in the next month or so, rockets, then Trump's job approval rating will go along with it simultaneously. This is a one-issue poll. And I noted that Karl Rove, who does not like Donald Trump at all because Trump diminished the Bush family. His analysis on Fox was that Trump's in dire trouble. No, he's not. He could be. The tariff doesn't work out, he'll be in dire trouble. But now he's not. Because in the next hundred days, everything could turn around fast. In the middle of, we're talking about late June, early July, Trump could be at 50 percent job approval if the market comes up. But that's not how it's being portrayed.

Two more questions Trump approval on immigration, approve 46, disapprove 53. That goes against every other poll. Just so you know. And Trump approval on tariffs, approve 34 disapprove 64. There you go, that's it. That ties right in. Why is this happening? Well, Donald Trump is a change agent, okay? He's bold. I wrote a memoir called The Bold, Fresh Piece of Humanity, which the nuns used to call me. Well, you can assign that to the President of the United States. And we have a $37 trillion national debt. There's no way to get that down unless you get more money in here, which is what the tariffs would do. And you cut, doge. But, the Democrats are not interested in that at all. They don't feel it's important. They don't care about it. Biden did nothing about it, nothing. Biden was the biggest spending president in history, okay? So Trump comes in and says, look, I'm gonna change this whole economic system. When you do that, there's gonna be pain. If it were easy, it would have been done a long time ago. The only other president that did this is Teddy Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt. So when he took office after William McKinley was shot dead in 1901, Roosevelt went after almost immediately the so-called robber barons. I write about this in Confronting Evil. So talking about John Rockefeller, John Pierpont Morgan, the big monopoly guys, and they were exploiting the American worker, not only paying him nothing, but dangerous, dangerous working conditions. Roosevelt beat them, but it took a long time, and it was bloody. Roosevelt took a lot of heat for it. But he changed the economy, busted the trusts, busted the monopolies. Okay, that is a very valid comparison of what Trump's doing now. Teddy was like this, I'm going to do this. Trump is convinced that tariffs are the future to get America a stronger economy. He's convinced of it.

Now, there have been a few other presidents that have been disruptors. And Trump is absolutely a disruptor. He wants a smaller federal government. And again, his opposition does not. They don't want any of this, including the media. So the presidents who disrupted the system were Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman. That's it. Those are the only presidents that disrupted the American system. And all of them paid a price for it. Lincoln paid his life for disrupting the slavery industry. That's why Booth killed him. And the others, Jackson was with the national bank, and he didn't want the federal government controlling the economy. Teddy, as we just mentioned, Franklin Roosevelt brought in the safety nets after the depression, changed the whole structure that the government had an obligation to save you if you were drowning. And Harry Truman basically said, look, I'm running the show. I'm firing Douglas MacArthur over in Korea. I'm dropping the atom bombs. Disrupter. So, it's important that you know the context of what Donald Trump is doing. The other thing in this poll is that I don't believe, and I'm not being supercilious, word of the day here, that Americans don't understand tariffs even after all of this. They do not know what they are. They don't know. They don't know where the money goes, they don't know who pays the money, they don’t know why they're necessary, they don't know how much... America gets screwed every year to the tune of a trillion dollars. A trillion dollars more leaves our country than comes in, in trade. I mean, that's big. And again, there's no way to reverse that without pain. And that's what we're experiencing now, and that's why Trump poll numbers are down. In the end, I don't know whether Donald Trump will succeed in this. Nobody can possibly predict that. I think he might, but I can't go further than that. I hope he does. I hope he does. Be better for everybody here. And that's the Memo.
Truman dropped the bomb, when he was advised it would cost 1,000,000 American casualties to invade and totally defeat Japan.

He years later shitcanned Mac Arthur for not following the Chain of Command in the Korean War.
 
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$24M in savings, and it takes away some of the incentives that non citizens have to come here.

Listening to the way Dems talk about non-citizens, you wouldn’t think these grants are necessary. They say the non citizens bring positive economics. Well, time for them to prove it.
I like the idea of cutting costs by getting illegals in one place for deportment !

It's cruel and unusual punishment to have them sleep on a gym floor !
 
I still fail to understand why we want huge props for predicting crime numbers to drop after a historic spike due to a manufactured scenario (Floyd riots). Obviously crime will go down from there.
Crime records MUST be tabulated by an effective group (NOT the FBI ) that gathers COMPLETE numbers of ALL CRIME !

Ways to decrease crime over time !

1. Deport illegal immigrants.
2. Higher cash bail % .
3. Incarceration of Criminals, especially violent crimes.
4. No early parole.
5. Mandatory sentencing.
6. Arrests and trials for multiple occurrences, like shoplifting.

This is a long term approach, more than a year !
 
Did you see the comment from the NFL guy with 33 years of experience and the interview of Sanders? Yikes. Brought the entire entourage, headphones around his neck, too intense cologne…actually had to go on a walk outside, asked where he saw himself in 5 years. “Mayor of the city”. LOL.
The NFL is a club of the super wealthy, who treat their employees as serfs.

The Chargers had a management outfit come in to tell us how to build a team ! Only problem was they didn't understand the competitive nature of athletes fighting for a job ! That you got PAID , if only you made the team ! It wasn't selling socks or t-shirts at a Sears. ( When they still existed !)

I asked questions ! The Head Coach came up to me and told me I was too smart and sit there and shut up !
 
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First, Ann Selzer isn't still polling, she retired after 2024 (and was most accurate in 2016 and 2020 with polls more favorable to Trump than others). Second, I believe she had Kamala up 3%.

Which was obviously wrong.

All the current polling showing Trump approval collapse could be wrong. I would think the right would hope those numbers are different come 2026 tho.
 
I had a lot of friends tell me that they couldn't move. When I asked why, it was always a bunch of reasons why they didn't want to move. Typically family, which I understand is tough to move away from.

It will get more difficult as my parents get older. Someone will likely need to move back to help care for them. Fortunately my wife has told me she will be willing to move again, when necessary. I'm fortunate I married another chance taker.
My 2 BIL's are both in their 90's, both suffer from memory issues from aging. One has my Sister at home , with a 2 day a week aide, one is a widower and had 5 day a week aide.

My Sister at home has some extra help with her Son & his family and my single Sister nearby.
My BIL has a "companion" but not all the time. His 3 Sons are at loggerheads on what to do. 1 in Fla, 1 in MD, 1 in NJ !

BOTH have had their car keys confiscated.

Quite the dilemma !
 
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I agree that we need more worker visas, but first the US needs to rewrite the law to allow for more foreign workers to come and work. As for the myth that they are taking jobs from Americans is nonsense. It does not matter what the message is. Citizens will not work certain jobs--accept that reality. Plus in Florida, and probably Texas and Arizona, there are many jobs in the heat and the sun that most US citizens of European descent cannot perform. I know from first hand experience as does everyone else down here. As far as the assertion that involuntary servitude needs to end, I agree, but the business community and Republicans in office don't. Why is the federal minimum wage stuck at $7.25 per hour?
Because minimum wage has been mostly irrelevant since covid hit??
 
First, Ann Selzer isn't still polling, she retired after 2024 (and was most accurate in 2016 and 2020 with polls more favorable to Trump than others). Second, I believe she had Kamala up 3%.

Which was obviously wrong.

All the current polling showing Trump approval collapse could be wrong. I would think the right would hope those numbers are different come 2026 tho.
They are wrong. The 16 percent was the delta on her accuracy. She had Kammy up 3 and she lost by 13 IIRC.

She definitely sold out to produce that poll.
 
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President Trump was elected by the majority of the Voting American citizens.

He won easily in the vote, swing States and the Electoral College.

House of Rep AND the Senate.

Live with it and relax like many of us did with # 46.

I didn't change my life, except to prepare for SHTF.
But all that entailed was some barter silver coins, some ammo, and some long term (25 years !) food storage.

His tariffs policy will show if it works soon. He is fundamentally restructuring how America operates at the Federal level.

Every Citizen should wish he is correct !
If he is correct many things in the middle class will be better !

If not can it be worse than Biden Economics ?

Big Will Economics; Slow but sure. Up 21 % of trade opened Monday, just closed out. The one from closed yesterday ? UP another 4 points ! Should have been a piggy !

New news : Grandson # 4, just awarded Academic All - American by the National High School Coaches Association !

Weighted GPA (?) 4.20 in Soph Year.
 
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I don't think Bezos is an idiot, but between WaPo and Amazon, he has a clown show going on right now. Let's not even mention the all-female astronaut crew that was nothing but a show.

I think Bezos is doing me and a bunch of americans a solid. When I see a tariff, I will look at other options for that product. Might as well put a big banner saying, "don't buy this" for a lot of us. Unintended consequences are a real thing 🤷‍♂️
 
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I agree that we need more worker visas, but first the US needs to rewrite the law to allow for more foreign workers to come and work. As for the myth that they are taking jobs from Americans is nonsense. It does not matter what the message is. Citizens will not work certain jobs--accept that reality. Plus in Florida, and probably Texas and Arizona, there are many jobs in the heat and the sun that most US citizens of European descent cannot perform.

This is a good point, about workers being unable to work certain climates/conditions.
I know from first hand experience as does everyone else down here. As far as the assertion that involuntary servitude needs to end, I agree, but the business community and Republicans in office don't. Why is the federal minimum wage stuck at $7.25 per hour?

I think raising the minimum wage could hurt people in small towns in less wealthy states. Don’t you think states have different needs, when it comes to a livable wage? If you push the minimum wage too high, doesn’t that encourage business owners to utilize cheap, illegal labor?

I have a tough time agreeing that 15 year old kids working at Dairy Queen in Wyoming need $17/hour to survive.

In NY, Cali, etc., I can see the number being that high.
 
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I do not like the 51st state talk from Trump about Canada. It was dumb and really served no helpful purpose.
As the mad, butt-hurt Canadians will now harm their economy to make themselves feel better. It will not be great for us either, but harder on them. Such a waste. I have not bought anything from Canada since they Boo'd our anthem.




 
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To add to the circus. In the 3rd round the Browns drafted Dillion Gabriel, QB from Oregon and then in the 5th round took Sanders. If they needed a developmental QB why didn't they take him in the 3rd round? Speculation is the owner got involved on the second pick. Whatever, Dillion Gabriel can't be too excited about this. For Sanders, it is a great opportunity to reset and get his career going. Deshaun Watson is probably on his way out (injured) and the veterans are Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco.

I think it got to a point where a team had to draft him, thinking about future value. Still the most important position in football, and Shedeur does have upside. They might be able to have him sit for a year, rehab his image a bit, and trade him for a higher pick next spring.

Gabriel is so small, I have a hard time seeing him have success in the NFL.
 
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Then why do they think it is important not to raise it?

Because it will crush small towns and incentivize business owners to use cheap, illegal labor. Do you at least see that side of the argument.

You do bring up some good issues on this topic. Appreciate the back and forth.
 
This is a good point, about workers being unable to work certain climates/conditions.


I think raising the minimum wage could hurt people in small towns in less wealthy states. Don’t you think states have different needs, when it comes to a livable wage? If you push the minimum wage too high, doesn’t that encourage business owners to utilize cheap, illegal labor?

I have a tough time agreeing that 15 year old kids working at Dairy Queen in Wyoming need $17/hour to survive.

In NY, Cali, etc., I can see the number being that high.
Florida citizens got fed up with the R's not raising the wage, so they went the Constitutional Referendum route. $14 this year and $15 next.
 
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Florida citizens got fed up with the R's not raising the wage, so they went the Constitutional Referendum route. $14 this year and $15 next.

I support states increasing their minimum wage. I think it makes more sense at that level.
 
Callie went to $ 20 an hour minimum !

Thousands of small companies have closed !

Yep, that is the downside that some don't talk about. Happening here in Denver too.

I'm more OK with it at the state level, than federally. If states go too far, businesses will suffer and voters will correct things.


There are still 15 states where the average cost of a home is below 300k. There are 3 states where the average cost of a home is over 700k. They should not have a similar minimum wage.
 
I do not like the 51st state talk from Trump about Canada. It was dumb and really served no helpful purpose.
As the mad, butt-hurt Canadians will now harm their economy to make themselves feel better. It will not be great for us either, but harder on them. Such a waste. I have not bought anything from Canada since they Boo'd our anthem.





I think it was great what Trump did and had no bearing on the election. IF Canucks voted "against" Trump, they are complete fools after being forced vaxxed, locked down, and debanked. In no way, shape or form is the addition of Canada good for Republicans.

That conservative lost his own district and instead taking Trump's lob pitch, he feigned outrage which a so-called conservative can never outdo a liberal. He should've laughed it off and said I'm the only one who can work with Trump to make Canada great again. Anyway, this new government may only last 4 months if the coalition fails.

It should also be noted that the mass importation of new Canucks sure did help the libs!
 
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Sold to whom? It was only a poll, and as you see, inconsequential.

She sold out to the Dems who used her fake poll to rally the troops. It was a BIG story the whole weekend. It may have saved Senate seats in WI & MI by making their real-life losses easily overcome with a reasonable amount of fraud.

Anyway, no way a once-quality pollster misses that badly unless it is on purpose - which it was.
 
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She sold out to the Dems who used her fake poll to rally the troops. It was a BIG story the whole weekend. It may have saved Senate seats in WI & MI by making their real-life losses easily overcome with a reasonable amount of fraud.

Anyway, no way a once-quality poster misses that badly unless it is on purpose - which it was.
Everything is a conspiracy!
 
I agree that we need more worker visas, but first the US needs to rewrite the law to allow for more foreign workers to come and work. As for the myth that they are taking jobs from Americans is nonsense. It does not matter what the message is. Citizens will not work certain jobs--accept that reality. Plus in Florida, and probably Texas and Arizona, there are many jobs in the heat and the sun that most US citizens of European descent cannot perform. I know from first hand experience as does everyone else down here. As far as the assertion that involuntary servitude needs to end, I agree, but the business community and Republicans in office don't. Why is the federal minimum wage stuck at $7.25 per hour?
Stoney, who did all the labor in building states like Florida, Texas, and Arizona before we had a massive influx of foreign and, by and large, undocumented workers? I think Rilla is right on this one. If we have US citizens who now don't want to work it's because we've created a system where we've essentially told them they don't need to and probably shouldn't anyway.
 
Why is it important to rise it when the free market has been driving wages up?
You have a point, and we see some of that. However, there are people that do not do well in a free market, marginal types, and there are areas, remote no free market to compete. There is one high school serving a consolidated three county system.
 
Stoney, who did all the labor in building states like Florida, Texas, and Arizona before we had a massive influx of foreign and, by and large, undocumented workers? I think Rilla is right on this one. If we have US citizens who now don't want to work it's because we've created a system where we've essentially told them they don't need to and probably shouldn't anyway.
The U.S. ALWAYS had a massive influx of foreign workers.(we will skip the slavery era) My Grandfathers were two, worked as laborers. There were Irish waves, Jewish waves, Italian waves all provided cheap labor. The story of the U.S. All were treated as sub-human in many ways, and discriminated against to the extreme. They lived in the same ghetto neighborhoods and ran the streets together. That is why they dominated organized crime. That is why the sought to move up by athletics, trouble is the only professional sports were boxing and baseball. Those three groups of immigrants constituted boxing. They also did all of the unwanted jobs. Labor, mining, slaughter houses etc... There a large number of Italian immigrants that ended up in N.O. and Louisiana. I wondered why. They were brought out there to work the sugar plantations as they worked for less than the freed slaves and descendants. Nothing changes in the U.S. including taking advantage of immigrant labor, and hating immigrants.
 
think Rilla is right on this one. If we have US citizens who now don't want to work it's because we've created a system where we've essentially told them they don't need to and probably shouldn't anyway.
Where is a sign of that? I never heard anyone say that. People don't work because they don't want to, mental health, substance abuse alcohol issues. Probably always has been that way. My mid-20 s year old son was working construction cleaning up homes damaged by a hurricane. The contractor tells him "you are a rarity'. My son asked him what he meant. "You are a white boy that wants to work, the rest just want to sit on the couch, do drugs and play games all day."
 
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