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Senate and House have nothing to do with electoral college for President. I would agree with the Senate was to equalize power regardless of size of states. EC only applies to Presidential race and was a compromise because Founding Fathers couldn't agree, and needed to get Southern states (slave states) to ratify. 4 out of the first 5 Presidents came from Virginia, that is 31 years of the first 35 years of the Country. Some did believe most people too ignorant to elect President. Some would still agree.Before John Tyler, only three of eight presidents came from Virginia. I'm not including Washington as he was unanimously elected and the leader of the country before the constitution was adopted.
But your argument of small states only recently having voting power is absolutely false. From day one until now, each state, no matter how small, was given two votes (correspending other the number of senators) plus one for each House member.
Before John Tyler, only three of eight presidents came from Virginia. I'm not including Washington as he was unanimously elected and the leader of the country before the constitution was adopted.Read again. Slave states were given 3/5 of a vote for each slave. Of course the slaves didn't vote, there were no actual votes from the slaves to count. So they gave the voting power to the state as a whole (electoral college) rather than giving each person a vote. Giving power to small states is a more modern justification used. To the contrary, why do you think the great number of our original Presidents came from Virginia? It was the most populated state with the greatest number of slaves. Therefore, it had the greatest weight in the electoral college. Heck with the small states.
Read again. Slave states were given 3/5 of a vote for each slave. Of course the slaves didn't vote, there were no actual votes from the slaves to count. So they gave the voting power to the state as a whole (electoral college) rather than giving each person a vote. Giving power to small states is a more modern justification used. To the contrary, why do you think the great number of our original Presidents came from Virginia? It was the most populated state with the greatest number of slaves. Therefore, it had the greatest weight in the electoral college. Heck with the small states.Not so. Slavery was a secondary issue where a compromise was made to determine the relative voting power of states. If you look into the notes kept at the time by the Continental Congress, it's clear their objective was to create a nation where broad geographic appeal of presidential candidates was necessary. They didn't want populous city-slickers dictating to the broader nation.
WOW, you are bouncing off the walls. What do Senators have to do with what we discussed. a Republic or an electoral college?It has everything to do with being a Republic! These moronic senators from tiny states (HI & VT) are willing to cede power to the bigger states? I have zero patience for short-sighted, politically driven, partisan hacks who just are not very bright. Giving up your only real power for a pat on the back from New York's Chuck Schumer? Totally corrupt. They ought to push an amendment to make the Senate representative of the country, too, thereby eliminating seats from Hawaii and Vermont.
All other countries are inferior to the USA as evidenced by the fact that this backwater, young country now dominates the world thanks exclusively to its CONSTITUTION!
Not so. Slavery was a secondary issue where a compromise was made to determine the relative voting power of states. If you look into the notes kept at the time by the Continental Congress, it's clear their objective was to create a nation where broad geographic appeal of presidential candidates was necessary. They didn't want populous city-slickers dictating to the broader nation.No, it was slavery.
It has everything to do with being a Republic! These moronic senators from tiny states (HI & VT) are willing to cede power to the bigger states? I have zero patience for short-sighted, politically driven, partisan hacks who just are not very bright. Giving up your only real power for a pat on the back from New York's Chuck Schumer? Totally corrupt. They ought to push an amendment to make the Senate representative of the country, too, thereby eliminating seats from Hawaii and Vermont.It has nothing to do with being a Republic. Almost all democratic countries are Republics. We are the only country that does not have our Presidential election settled by the most votes. It had to do with slavery.
No, it was slavery.The Founding Fathers were very aware (painfully) of what a tyranny of the majority can do. Supposedly it was the #1 reason they thought a direct election of the President and VP was not in our national interest.