Yeah? According to who? Janet Yellen? The poor victim government employees who were canned? You hear the left and MSM bashing every breath he takes and you blindly jump aboard.
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The family does know. This autopsy shows a bunch of blunt trauma and multiple types of drugs in his system. He fell down and died from the trauma. Whether he did it on purpose or not is undetermined.
It had nothing to do with your “death jab.” You have a real problem. It sucks for the family that sickos like you have been speculating about his death to prove a point the last 53 weeks.
Pfizer announced what they had made and gave a percentage of its effectiveness. Trump said he expected what Pfizer had announced to be accurate. Should Trump have second guessed what Pfizer announced?
“The average development timeline for the vaccine, including clinical tests and manufacturing can take eight to twelve years. Through Operation Warp Speed, we're doing it in less than one year. If you had a different administration with different people, what we've done would have taken, in my opinion, three, four or five years, and it would have been in the FDA forever. This is five times faster than the fastest prior vaccine development in history. Five times faster. Say it again. Five times faster. Nobody can believe it, actually.”
-Donald Trump 11/13/20
There you go again, lying. I've NEVER said they 100 percent died because of the death job. I have SAID that I believe it killed them. Significant difference.
I also don't know why you need to invoke a pill-pusher with 10 different names who claims he is "new" here but seems to know what happened here prior to March 1st. Anyway, since the COD will always be UNDETERMINED - your speculation is as good as mine. The more things you inject / ingest the more complicated the puzzle.
I've speculated and I'll stand by the reality that Christen Eriksen and Damar Hamlin died on the field due to the death jab. As for Vontae, perhaps you can go read the coroner's report and determine that my speculation is wrong assuming it says NOT COVID vaccinated. With premature death one of the side effects of the jab, it would seem like relevant information to include in the mysterious death of a 35 year old All-pro athlete.
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Remember, Jeff and Stone say it is a clown show. They miss their South American gang members and can't stand the thought of a closed border - Biden would have imported at least another 1,000,000 illegals by now.
They also enjoyed inflation going up, gas prices going up, a job market great for government workers, and a weak stance on China. Further, they fear the end of the bloodshed in Ukraine and liked the medieval Houthi's controlling access to the Red Sea / Suez Canal. Not to mention their deep affection for Fraud, Waste, and Abuse.
Did Trump come up with that all by himself? Was he the lead scientist on the vaccine development team? Was he grandstanding a bit, sure but he didn’t make that shit up on his own. Top scientists and government officials guided him to these conclusions. Oh, and the vaccine development company(ies) had a huge role as well…
I have never and will never put anyone on ignore.
While I disagree with a lot of your takes, I do not dislike you and actually appreciate your contributions to this board. Same with John Kay and Stoneaxe, believe it or not. I can run a bit hot at times, especially after a couple pops but I appreciate all contributions to this discussion.
Did I say Trump came up with the vaccine?
Trump used the art of the deal to fast track the release of the vaccines. It was rushed and has caused issues. It would not have been rushed through if not for Trump and OWS. His own words.
TJ calls it the “death jab.” He legitimately believes the vaccine has or will kill millions. He blames it for every tragic celebrity death he sees on his social media feed. Despite this, he voted for the man that is 100% responsible for getting it pushed through without proper development and clinical trials. Talk about bending over.
Agreed. However, the pharmaceutical companies assured everyone that they were “90% effective”. Trump was told that and delivered that message. Again, should he have second guessed those scientists and companies?
Yes. The pharmaceutical industry has a very long history of putting profits over people. That is why there’s steps in place to ensure products are safe before they reach the market. Trump used OWS to skip those steps. The pharmaceutical industry often uses money and corruption to make it through those steps. Trump made it even easier for them this time and they made record profits.
To this day Trump wants all the credit for OWS. Stop trying to take it from him.
Solid article and op-ed. Eli Lilly announcing a significant amount of pharmaceutical manufacturing is quite important. The resistance to what Trump is doing is obviously political on one side and otherwise short-sighted. When all the items of importance are made elsewhere, the United States is nothing but a weak princess. That’s what Gordon Gekko turned America into. America may be wealthy. That wealth as it was created is quite phony. Enemies couldn’t care less. The supply chain was bad enough during covid. Dum dums didn’t learn the lesson.
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Sen. Jim Banks: Trump's Tariffs Protect U.S. Workers From China | Opinion
President Trump understands that communist China poses the greatest threat in the world today to our security and our prosperity.
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Eli Lilly manufactures GLP-1 agonists. Our obese population is their primary target. They are based in Indiana. They aren’t bringing any new pharmaceutical manufacturing from overseas. This is not improving the supply chain in any way. They’re just investing more into GLP-1s so they can keep getting richer off fat Americans.Solid article and op-ed. Eli Lilly announcing a significant amount of pharmaceutical manufacturing is quite important. The resistance to what Trump is doing is obviously political on one side and otherwise short-sighted. When all the items of importance are made elsewhere, the United States is nothing but a weak princess. That’s what Gordon Gekko turned America into. America may be wealthy. That wealth as it was created is quite phony. Enemies couldn’t care less. The supply chain was bad enough during covid. Dum dums didn’t learn the lesson.
Sen. Jim Banks: Trump's Tariffs Protect U.S. Workers From China | Opinion
President Trump understands that communist China poses the greatest threat in the world today to our security and our prosperity.
As soon as they were proven not to work in a traditional vaccine sense, Trump’s ears should have been perking up. Little Anthony, the screw ball geek who couldn’t even throw an opening pitch at a baseball park anywhere near the plate, subsequently changed the definition of vaccine. They should have been pulled then. They weren’t effective and frankly the data shows that the more times a person is vaxxed with the mRNA vaxxes, the more potential damage is caused. Bare minimum…immune system issues have been created by the vax. I won’t even take the flu shot anymore either, because I don’t trust them now. Hell, this year’s shot was so bad, you had a better chance of not getting the flu, if you didn’t get the shot…75% more chance of getting the flu, if you got the shot, IIRC. That info is likely in the most recently disappeared thread.
Well, I happen to think that Trump believed what the scientists and pharmaceutical companies told him and I think he genuinely believed he cut through what he thought was unnecessary red tape in getting the vaxxes to the public in “warp speed”. If it ever becomes known that he was knowingly reckless in getting the vaxxes issued and was in cahoots with “big pharma” in doing so, I’ll light him on fire (figuratively) with the rest of you….
The red tape he cut was there for a reason. It resulted in a bad product that reached the public and astronomical profits for the pharmaceutical industry. Whether he was genuine in his intentions or not doesn’t really matter.
He also decided to listen to Fauci and tanked our economy and set back an entire generation of children. My children.
So you admit he was duped by big pharma (and Fauci), yet you still trust him to completely overhaul our government/economy and end world conflicts without getting duped again.
I think he learned a lot and I really think Trump has the best interests of normal US citizens in mind.
And when you frame it like he was “duped”, you make it sound like he fell prey to a con artist or snake oil salesman….. that’s not the same as believing the words of world-renowned scientists and the top pharmaceutical companies on the planet.
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I don’t.
Excuses. It was clear from get go that Fauci was full of it. Pfizer and J&J have lost some of the highest lawsuits in history for releasing bad products.
Trump botched the entire pandemic response. You give him a pass. I refuse.
Has there been any consequences for Fauci? Nope.
Your guy had four years to deal with Fauci. Nothing happened other than some praise (and an unspecified pardon).
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Elon Musk lowers DOGE's projected savings from $1 trillion to $150 billion
Elon Musk seemed to lower DOGE's estimated savings by saying he anticipates $150 billion in cut "waste and fraud" in the next fiscal year.
www.usatoday.com
I guess there wasn't as much fraud and waste as everyone expected.
Biden is not my guy. Classic MAGA playbook. If you criticize the cult leader you must be a woke lib.
There were better Republican options. Namely a governor that handled the pandemic response better than anyone. You all chose to re-elect a proven clown show instead.
The entire thing has been nothing but a big show to froth up all the MAGA supporters.Elon Musk lowers DOGE's projected savings from $1 trillion to $150 billion
Elon Musk seemed to lower DOGE's estimated savings by saying he anticipates $150 billion in cut "waste and fraud" in the next fiscal year.www.usatoday.com
I guess there wasn't as much fraud and waste as everyone expected.
Only $150 billion, BILLION, in fraud and waste. If Biden had done this it would amount to $900 billion after 4 years. Musk is such a loser. Instead Biden wanted to raise taxes and give Stacy Abrams $2 BILLION of taxpayer money to hand out free electric appliances.
Also, the journalist at USA Today admits the quote may not be accurate:
"It was unclear whether Musk misspoke at the Cabinet meeting and intended to highlight DOGE's projected savings to date. On the group's website, DOGE currently projects estimated savings of $150 billion identified so far."
Click bait for the left.
Also, the journalist at USA Today admits the quote may not be accurate:
"It was unclear whether Musk misspoke at the Cabinet meeting and intended to highlight DOGE's projected savings to date. On the group's website, DOGE currently projects estimated savings of $150 billion identified so far."
Click bait for the left.
Musk says DOGE set to top $150B in fraud savings in FY 2026
Elon Musk told President Donald Trump on Thursday that DOGE expects to save the U.S. government more than $150 billion in waste and fraud in FY 2026.
Fox is reporting 150 billion. It's 150 billion. Also, 4 years of savings would be 600 billion not 900 billion. It's not 1 trillion as MAGA believed it would be. The idea of that much waste was ridiculous. Also, the 150 billion may be questionable. Try to spin it any way you want DOGE was a dog and pony show for MAGA that did not deliver the promised results. It's about 2% of the 2024 budget, really impressive! Federal government is more efficient than everyone thought.
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This is a bit hyperbolic. I’d want proof a bunch of factories are closing and they are leaving containers in the middle of the ocean. Of course it’s going to put a significant strain on them when our companies go elsewhere to manufacture goods.
I can tell you one thing. I have made in Great Britain amps, made in America amps and made in China amps…all famous guitar amp brands. The quality is the same. Chinese can manufacture to tight tolerances, but it seems that is where many people go to find cheap labor for cheap stuff. Now guitar work is the same. From a NAFTA standpoint a MIA Fender Telecaster is great. The MIM (Mexico) is fine, unless you compare to the older CIJ (crafted in Japan) imported Fenders. The CIJ blows away the MIM in quality. Right now there are 2 American guitar makers who have their import models built in Indonesia and the bit, finish, quality, ability to stay in tune, less adjustments is superior to the MIM stuff. My mention of these things is that Chinese factories aren’t the only factories that Gekko fella can move his operations to.
We can move production, but we still need some materials from elsewhere to guarantee our future, such as microchip manufacturing and materials for rechargeables. China obviously won’t share. We need to blow Greenland weiner to make a deal for their rare materials. I would also consider going all out in suffocating Putin’s oil and gas money. Once the Ukraine war stops, I don’t know if Zelenskyy can be worked with. He comes off as being more important on the stage than he is. Ukraine can be bypassed. Russia is a land of opportunity. A very big land. I would build a much better business relationship with them and extract their materials. They are not quality manufacturers and frankly need the US…and I’m qualifying this as once the Ukraine/Russian war is over.
Donald Trump did not set back your children. GMAFB. JaBba the Pritzker and Illinois radicals f’d all the kids. I know. I was there. Even the college kids got f’d by Illinois government policy. Trump didn’t shut schools down. Pritzker did. Trump didn’t force college kids who played outside sports to still be practicing in small groups of 5-6 on a roster of 35+. Trump did not tell Illinois universities to teach with zoom, where even some professors were wearing facemasks while teaching from zoom. Donald Trump did not create the policy that even if you had a previous case of covid, you needed to get vaxxed or you would have to get a stick shoved up your nose and jam your brain once a week otherwise. Donald Trump did not force people to get vaxxed. Pritzker and the IDPH created tracing policy that highly incentivized getting vaxxed, because an unvaxxed person who had possible contact with someone discovered to have Covid made the unvaxxed get quarantined at home. These were not national policies. I could go on for more. I supported my local restaurants and ordered carryout as often as possible. The first time I did it and mentioned it on this very forum, I got chewed on by the lefties.
Don’t make me defend Trump. He was certainly not good that final year, but we can conclude that he trusted government officials, which was his downfall. He clearly believed Fauci and Birx to the end of his 45 admin and they played him like a fiddle. FI his comment about Kemp opening Georgia too soon came from Fauci/Birx. I won’t even get into the daily covid briefings where he should have let Pence be in front of the camera and not him.
Again, the statement was for fiscal 2026. Doge goes until July 2026. I'm amazed that anyone thinks it is a failure to root out $150 billion of fraud and waste in less than 3 months. But the left spins it how they want, even though they surely benefited by some of this misguided taxpayer money.Musk says DOGE set to top $150B in fraud savings in FY 2026
Elon Musk told President Donald Trump on Thursday that DOGE expects to save the U.S. government more than $150 billion in waste and fraud in FY 2026.www.foxnews.com
Fox is reporting 150 billion. It's 150 billion. Also, 4 years of savings would be 600 billion not 900 billion. It's not 1 trillion as MAGA believed it would be. The idea of that much waste was ridiculous. Also, the 150 billion may be questionable. Try to spin it any way you want DOGE was a dog and pony show for MAGA that did not deliver the promised results. It's about 2% of the 2024 budget, really impressive! Federal government is more efficient than everyone thought.
Sorry about my bad math, I can't stand the national debt and the wanton spending ways that led to it. Trump's big beautiful bill cuts spending more but our grandkids are inheriting an albatross and China is being patient waiting for it to implode. And it will unless the US does something but $36 trillion is a powerful drug.
Elon Musk lowers DOGE's projected savings from $1 trillion to $150 billion
Elon Musk seemed to lower DOGE's estimated savings by saying he anticipates $150 billion in cut "waste and fraud" in the next fiscal year.www.usatoday.com
I guess there wasn't as much fraud and waste as everyone expected.
If they find that much in the first year, and it’s annual savings, people are going to be happy.
I know we are going to spend billions less, for the next 4 years, on non citizens. Those are annual savings where the cost would have skyrocketed even more under Harris.
Key Data on Federal Benefits Paid to Illegal Immigrant Households
Soaring illegal immigration during the Biden-Harris administration was a major campaign theme, with a pre-election Harvard poll finding Americans considered immigration the second-most important issue—right behind inflation and ahead of the economy. An AP exit poll seconded that ranking, with 39...
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I don't know how happy people will be will be with 150 billion when they were promised a great deal more. Especially with the chaos and the cuts in government services.
The estimate in 2023 is that illegals costed 150 billion in government services at all levels. Let's say it is 250 billion today. Assume the US does not spend a dime on illegals. The DOGE and illegal savings would be 400 billion. The budget deficit after those savings is 1.6 trillion. You can’t balance the budget without cuts to entitlements.
Republicans pass Trump-backed tax plan that could drastically cut Medicaid
Republicans will now have to detail what specific programs they will cut, including potential changes to Medicaid.
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Fair enough though that’s not much more meaningful than saying you voted for yourself.
It’s good paying American jobs, Mrs. Mary Kay. How many jobs have you created in your lifetime?
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