Andrej Stojakovic…
- By illin1978
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Tesla's brand has been permanently damaged by Musk. Sales are down 13% for 2025. Tesla's customer base are early adopters with a passion for the cause. Tesla's build quality sucks and if more people decide to go electric they will demand a much better built product.
Toyota is planning to have its solid state battery technology implemented in a number of vehicles within 5 years with significantly increased range and 10 minute charging times. If Toyota's plans are realized, Toyota will crush Tesla with superior battery technology and much better build quality.
So, what? How many brands? Tesla was at 600,000 units and the next best is Ford at 86,000 (7:1 ratio).Non-Tesla EVs now make up greater than 50% of the EV market.
Non-Tesla EVs now make up greater than 50% of the EV market.Agreed, Senator Mark Kelly got rid of his virtue-signaling Tesla and bought a gas-guzzling Chevrolet Tahoe. Most of these elitists won't be buying a different brand's crappy EV.
As shown earlier, Tesla is pretty much it in the EV game. The rest are but bit players.
I do agree with you. However, with Musk you don't have to do any research. Musk tied himself with a divisive President that his customer base dislikes. There are more electric options than ever before. Not surprising that a chunk of them will go elsewhere.
Normal people don’t research the politics of CEO’s before they buy something.
Durbin will be replaced by another Democrat, likely even further to the left. It’s the Illinois way. It’s why Chicagoland needs to be a separate state they ruin it for the rest of Illinois.2026 Election cycle should be interesting !
Senate retiring; 1. Durbin, Ill 2. Peters, Muck 3. Smith, Minny 4. Shaheen, NH 5. Frozen Mitch, Kent
There SHOULD BE MORE !
BOTH PARTIES>
Normal people don’t research the politics of CEO’s before they buy something.
Huh? Elon Musk literally built a brand designed to appeal to latte liberals, and then decided to go "all in" in the political project of the person they detest most. Why on Earth should people who dislike him be spending tens of thousands of dollars on his cars (particularly as there's more competition in the marketplace)? This was a lifestyle product, and then the guy selling it told them he hated big chunks of their lifestyle. Ironically, I yet again get to be one of the few people in a certain bucket (anti-Covid hysteria and anti-Trump and now underwhelmed by Tesla pre-Elon going MAGA and still underwhelmed after he went MAGA).
The victim complex of the right is no different than that of the left. Elon put himself in an obvious position of difficulty, that's on him. Here's the rub ... he's not going to get out of it. Tesla isn't going to win a bunch of other business races to save itself, it will at best become a niche car company come 5-10 years from now. SELL, SELL, SELL ala the Randolph brothers from Trading Places!
I am eagerly awaiting the budget deficit of the next few years to see what Elon really did for us. Here's guessing it was something akin to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic after it hit the iceberg, because Trump won't allow him or other Rs to address the real problems in our debt/deficit - entitlements (especially SS and Medicare). Happened in Trump 1, gonna happen again in Trump 2! Yay!
Waymo's autonomous Jaguar i-Pace robotaxis' driving all around Miami right now. Utilized one just a couple weeks ago.I don't think they are the market leader in self-driving cars. I believe that's Waymo.
Tesla's brand has been permanently damaged by Musk. Sales are down 13% for 2025. Tesla's customer base are early adopters with a passion for the cause. Tesla's build quality sucks and if more people decide to go electric they will demand a much better built product.
Toyota is planning to have its solid state battery technology implemented in a number of vehicles within 5 years with significantly increased range and 10 minute charging times. If Toyota's plans are realized, Toyota will crush Tesla with superior battery technology and much better build quality.
Yes, Ford lost over 12 Billion dollars thanks to EV. GM sucks with EVs. The numbers for 2024 are below. If only GM and Ford had concentrated on their core business they wouldn't be in such an awful state (My whiny facebook friend complaining about tariffs killing Ford had no comment to the 12B they blew on EVs).
You are a broken, warped record. Telsa dominates the EV space. They are the only one making a profit.
You have zero credibility. You just reply, there are other EV auto companies. Yes, totally insignificant ones. Lucid - not even list worthy. Rivian, down 90 percent and now unsubsidized. Ford and GM - scaling back big time. With gas prices set to decline thanks to Trump, EVs will become even less attractive.
Telsa - 600,000
Ford - 86,000
GM - 56,000
Hyundai - 44,000
Honda - 33,000
Rivian - 27,000
- GM’s new Chevrolet Equinox EV placed eighth with nearly 29,000 sales, while the Cadillac Lyriq (28,402) and Rivian R1S (26,934) rounded out the top 10.
Top 10 best-selling EVs in the US of 2024 (*Kelley Blue Book estimates)
EV model 2024 sales* 2024 market share 1. Tesla Model Y 372,613 28.6% 2. Tesla Model 3 189,903 14.6% 3. Ford Mustang Mach-E 51,745 4% 4. Hyundai IONIQ 5 44,400 3.4% 5. Tesla Cybertruck 38,965 3% 6. Ford F-150 Lightning 33,510 2.6% 7. Honda Prologue 33,017 2.5% 8. Chevrolet Equinox EV 28,874 2.2% 9. Cadillac Lyriq 28,402 2.2% 10. Rivian R1S 26,934 2.1%