For the last 4 years, MAGA has complained that the quest for diversity, equity, and inclusion has been prioritized over quality. Our math scores are plummeting, our service industry provides less quality service, our schools indoctrinate instead of educate, etc.

Trump was voted in to get rid of this prioritization, or so I thought. Apparently not.

You want another glaring example? Look at what has happened to American basketball and the NBA. There is zero doubt that the USA has the most basketball talent in the world. Unfortunately, our development sucks. The best talents in Europe are pushed into pro programs in their early to mid teens and train with pros, and pro coaches. No garbage AAU where the top talent plays against kids that don’t even make it to college basketball. No 20 hour weekly practice limits. No time wasted acting like they are going to class for a semester or longer. Just structured, intentional development. The top talents here in America don’t have a path like that, unless they go overseas. Pretty crazy, right? Mediocrity, when it comes to basketball player development.

American soccer is another example. Are you guys seeing it yet? Take off those angry red glasses and be curious for a second.

Brad Underwood loves foreign players, and one of the reasons is that they practice so hard, with intention. Little drama, unlike many of their American counterparts. Fewer demands.

It’s hilarious that something that is so commonly said infuriated a lot of people.

tjfleck6 said:

But, it’s the culture.

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Just to be clear, people are upset that American companies are choosing mediocre foreign talent over the top American talent?

But also upset that someone said American culture embraces mediocrity?

Again, quite the corner you guys have backed yourself into.

Just to be clear, we had young people that were incapable of going to class or work after the election didn’t go their way, but you also think we don’t have a culture problem?

People that come here for the right reasons don’t give a shit about stuff like that, and are just here to work. Companies like people that put their heads down and work, instead of looking for reasons they shouldn’t have to.

Now I’m sure I’ll hear about how hard our young people work. Meanwhile our young people are looking for the newest mouse wiggling technology.

MAGA Nov 2024 - “Elon and Vivek are going to clean this shit up. Less worrying about feelings and more transparency. More efficiency.”

MAGA Dec 2024 - “Vivek was transparent and I don’t like it. He’s wrong. Whaaaaa”

tjfleck6 said:

But, it’s the culture.

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Not once have I said people from other countries perform better. It’s almost like there are other factors that cause companies to hire foreign workers. Vivek told you one of the factors, and you are dismissing him. This is all so hilarious.

But, it’s the culture.

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These articles wouldn’t exist if this wasn’t an issue here.

Uncoach said:

We celebrate Valedictorians. We still have Magna Cum Laude and Summa Cum Laude recognition. There is a metric crap ton of educational scholarships available that dwarf athletic scholarship money across all levels of college. I’m not going to get back to saying Vivek is terrible, because I never said he was terrible. I said he was wrong. Is this really the best you can do? Did stonedaxe steal your password? Have all the Venezuelan gangs been deported from your neighborhood?

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Have you interviewed any young people in recent years? I have, and I talk to HR people on a regular basis. We haven’t even mentioned some of the changes that people have seen in recent years. I’m going to make some generalizations here, but I’ve seen this play out, and have heard about it several times….

You know what foreign workers don’t ask in an interview?

- How many days a week do I have to come in the office? This is often the first question young people ask now.
- How many vacation days do I get in my first year?
- Can you tell me about your DEI program? Do you have any ERGs that I can join?

They are much more likely to ask….

- what type of work are you looking to execute and when can I start?

Foreign workers never ask you to use their pronouns (never listed on foreign resumes, often on young Americans’ resume) or ask for special accommodations. The ones that are here to improve their lives are thinking about when they can begin and how they can get to the next level.

HR departments and CEOs don’t want to hire people that are going to cause problems and make demands. Those things are much more likely to happen with an American kid coming from a broken system than they are a foreign worker that just wants to work. American workers are much more litigious too, and much more likely to go after a company for something minor (remember the obsession with microagressions? That’s mainly an American thing.)

Thinking Vivek is wrong is ignoring someone that has heard these conversations from CEOs, owners, etc.

BigWill said:

Dr. Jill teaches at a Community College !

I am sure she is an inspiration to her students !

Has anyone been interested to find and examine her Doctoral paper for plagiarism ?

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So let’s allow anyone from a foreign country attend there by giving a green card to them.

stoneaxe27 said:

An Associates Degree from a community college is enough to give a green card. Asinine. Another ignorant statement.

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Dr. Jill teaches at a Community College !

I am sure she is an inspiration to her students !

Has anyone been interested to find and examine her Doctoral paper for plagiarism ?

tjfleck6 said:

Regret? Lol.

This is similar to what Australia did when I worked on a visa there - an equivalent Australian salary had to be paid in order for one to be issued to me (filling a role that only a cleared US citizen could do). Make it expensive and the abuse will be very limited

Thank God I voted for DJT


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I just finished reading the entirety of Sterling’s thread. I was going to place it here, but you essentially beat me to the punch. It’s great info.

Uncoach said:

Looks like insurrection, if not seceding from the Union.

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Belly bumping against Tom Holman ?

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Regret? Lol.

This is similar to what Australia did when I worked on a visa there - an equivalent Australian salary had to be paid in order for one to be issued to me (filling a role that only a cleared US citizen could do). Make it expensive and the abuse will be very limited

Thank God I voted for DJT


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rillaman said:

That was such a tiny part of his overall message, and a very strange part to focus on. He didn’t say people shouldn’t play sports. He was implying we should celebrate excellence in school as much as we do sports, if not more.

He said much more than that, and a lot of it you would have agreed with if hadn’t made comments about Indian CEOs. If he just talked about us being a country that celebrates mediocrity, that’s a position that we have all talked about on this board.

I understand your position perfectly. You want to dismiss his overall message by picking apart a small piece of his post.

Now get back to telling me that he’s terrible while also complaining about safe spaces and woke schools.

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We celebrate Valedictorians. We still have Magna Cum Laude and Summa Cum Laude recognition. There is a metric crap ton of educational scholarships available that dwarf athletic scholarship money across all levels of college. I’m not going to get back to saying Vivek is terrible, because I never said he was terrible. I said he was wrong. Is this really the best you can do? Did stonedaxe steal your password? Have all the Venezuelan gangs been deported from your neighborhood?

rillaman said:

Our schools have safe spaces and counseling services for weak kids? They can’t handle election results but you believe we don’t have a culture of babying kids and young adults?

Very exciting to know that everything has changed since you posted this 3 weeks ago.

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You don’t read very well and are willfully misrepresenting what I am stating because you didn’t quite vote straight ticket and you look more like you’re going straight jacket, Mr. I’msoindependent.