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You are moving the goal posts and I most certainly not saying that Iran isn’t an issue. It will be hard to change regimes without boots on the ground. Massie does not go for political points. He is a principled libertarian. Most importantly, he doesn’t grovel at the feet of the Israelis like half the Republican party and truly thinks America first. No matter how hard someone tries to conflate Israeli interests as American interests, they most certainly are not most of the time.
I haven’t moved any goal posts despite a PhilFleckJohn69 laughing at it. Regime change has to be organic and by the Iranian people. The Shah is readily available. Isolationism isn’t America First. Reagan didn’t take any crap and didn’t start any wars. He still used the military. In Trump’s first term he f’d up 600 Russian mercs (Wagner Group) in Syria. He brought peace through strength and also choked the Iranian Regime of money.
 
I haven’t moved any goal posts despite a PhilFleckJohn69 laughing at it. Regime change has to be organic and by the Iranian people. The Shah is readily available. Isolationism isn’t America First. Reagan didn’t take any crap and didn’t start any wars. He still used the military. In Trump’s first term he f’d up 600 Russian mercs (Wagner Group) in Syria. He brought peace through strength and also choked the Iranian Regime of money.
i know what you deleted. Feel free to call me that. Me not supporting another American war doesn’t make me what you called me. It doesn’t silence the reality of the political climate in our country . Btw, I am fairly certain the Russian mercenaries started that exchange in Syria.
 
i know what you deleted. Feel free to call me that. Me not supporting another American war doesn’t make me what you called me. It doesn’t silence the reality of the political climate in our country .
Glad you saw it. You walk a fine line for those of us who have jewish relatives. What “war” do we have? Do you understand the difference between “war” and a precision, strategic strike?
 
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Yeah, let Iran build nukes. Great idea. You’ll see “Death to America” in ways you’ve never dreamed possible.
Look, I know you’re an anti-war pacifist, and that’s your prerogative, but some people should be prevented from having nukes at all costs. I don’t want a boots-on-the-ground war either but some tactical bombings of specific nuke-building locations seems like a good plan to me.
 
Glad you saw it. You walk a fine line for those of us who have jewish relatives. What “war” do we have? Do you understand the difference between “war” and a precision, strategic strike?
The United States and its citizens have absolutely no obligation to protect Israel . None. Your relatives and their heritage doesn’t matter. What is in the best interests of America, not to be conflated with any foreign nation is what counts.
 
The United States and its citizens have absolutely no obligation to protect Israel . None. Your relatives and their heritage doesn’t matter. What is in the best interests of America, not to be conflated with any foreign nation is what counts.
Good lord, you are crapping your pants over Israel. Do you understand the largest exporter/supporter of terror in the world shouldn’t have nuke capability? Yes or no? WTF does that have to do with Israel? Not one darn thing.
 
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Are they actively funding and arming terrorists who have the US squarely in their crosshairs?
Well, we may have just unleashed those terrorists now unfortunately and given them an impetus to target us. Certainly, Biden let a significant number of them of them in with his America last policies on the southern border. Also, iirc where was bin Ladin being kept as a refuge?
 
Well, we may have just unleashed those terrorists now unfortunately and given them an impetus to target us. Certainly, Biden let a significant number of them of them in with his America last policies on the southern border. Also, iirc where was bin Ladin being kept as a refuge?

Exact same argument used to oppose aggressively going after Islamic terrorists following 911. (There hasn’t been a major terrorist attack on U.S. soil since then.)
 
Well, we may have just unleashed those terrorists now unfortunately and given them an impetus to target us. Certainly, Biden let a significant number of them of them in with his America last policies on the southern border. Also, iirc where was bin Ladin being kept as a refuge?
Well, then we should just let Iran have nukes for fear of unleashed terrorists.
We can’t sit back and do nothing simply in the name of “peace”. Peace will not last if we sit on our asses.
 
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