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Last I checked that insurance is equivalent to property tax in Texas or Illinois (especially Naperville). Arizona may be your play if you are looking for 2200 sq. Insurance is reasonable as is property tax. Housing has soared in Arizona too - but for what you are seeking you wouldn't have to live in the far reaches.

All in all, the influx to Florida will continue. Hopefully, RDS can find a way to address insurance costs.
Our home in NY State W of WP was approaching $ 20,000 in Property taxes when we all moved in, several years ago now.

That doesn't include State Income Tax, Sales Tax above 8 %, Tax on Social Security. Not including increases in electric services, fuel oil for heat.

Not including home insurance. garbage removal.

Well water and septic system.
 
Last I checked that insurance is equivalent to property tax in Texas or Illinois (especially Naperville). Arizona may be your play if you are looking for 2200 sq. Insurance is reasonable as is property tax. Housing has soared in Arizona too - but for what you are seeking you wouldn't have to live in the far reaches.

All in all, the influx to Florida will continue. Hopefully, RDS can find a way to address insurance costs.

My wife loves Florida! We can afford the costs but many people can't. Insurance is becoming a real problem for most people. 20% self insure and average cost is around 9k.

I don't think it can be fixed, it's the cost of living in a state with hurricanes.
 
My wife loves Florida! We can afford the costs but many people can't. Insurance is becoming a real problem for most people. 20% self insure and average cost is around 9k.

I don't think it can be fixed, it's the cost of living in a state with hurricanes.
Texas has always had outrageous property taxes, yet it has grown immensely. I don't know the state of property tax in Florida, but with all of the tourists they are likely low like Hawaii.

A lot of people buying a lot of places. Now that Trump is getting rid of the illegals, housing should become more affordable. Hotels too! And airline tickets thanks to Trump cutting government travel significantly and drill baby drill.
 
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Texas has always had outrageous property taxes, yet it has grown immensely. I don't know the state of property tax in Florida, but with all of the tourists they are likely low like Hawaii.

A lot of people buying a lot of places. Now that Trump is getting rid of the illegals, housing should become more affordable. Hotels too! And airline tickets thanks to Trump cutting government travel significantly and drill baby drill.

I know taxes vary greatly by county but where we are looking the taxes are not much lower than Naperville.
 
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I know taxes vary greatly by county but where we are looking the taxes are not much lower than Naperville.

Florida has seen a ton of growth in recent years. It’s grown by 2 million people in the last handful of years. Not surprising that it has gotten really expensive.

Great place to live, but there are issues. Environmentally vulnerable place, and very tough to insure. Probably wasn’t meant to have 23 million+ people. But yet, many like you are still trying to move there. The inflow of people is not over.
 
FYI, it would not surprise me if more people start leaving Florida. There really is a housing affordability problem. My wife and I have been looking at houses for about a year in the Sarasota/Bradenton area. Taxes and home insurance alone will cost us about 23,000/yr for a 2,200 sf house. We are not looking at anything near the coast.
About a year ago, we were thinking about putting an offer for a house that listed for 950k. The house is still on the market at 775k. Definitely a buyers market in the area.

Similar here. Houses that were selling for 900k a couple years ago are sitting for a while and then selling for 8 or lower now. High interest rates and rising taxes and insurance.

Most areas in coastal states like California and Florida are built for the very wealthy and the lower class that services them. Very tough for middle class. So yes, you will see people moving out. They have to. Just happens to certain areas over time.

Side note - a lot of people in my generation do not want to buy the massive houses that those a generation before us built. We don’t have as many kids, and those houses are expensive to manage. It’s going to be interesting to see how that plays out in the next decade or so.
 
I don’t have an issue with the ruling. Why does DOGE need unlimited access to the SSA database for a fishing expedition? A plan would be nice before total access is given.

Again, they can always appeal.

Of course you don't have an issue with renegade liberal activists. The constitutional crisis will be on you and your parties' hands. It's really a stupid move and will end up being like the great Harry Reid removing the 60-vote minimum for judges.

DOGE needs access to insure that real people and deserving people benefit from SS.

You claim to want fiscal sanity and then oppose fiscal sanity because some stupid little judge is on a powertrip because his family is benefiting from the fraud.
 
I don’t have an issue with the ruling. Why does DOGE need unlimited access to the SSA database for a fishing expedition? A plan would be nice before total access is given.

Again, they can always appeal.
How many cases do you expect them to appeal, Jeff? When are you going to accept that this is unconstitutional? This is what happens in banana republics, not free countries.
 
I don’t have an issue with the ruling. Why does DOGE need unlimited access to the SSA database for a fishing expedition? A plan would be nice before total access is given.

Again, they can always appeal.
I haven't dug into the weeds but is "total access" to SSA records what they are requesting?
 
How many cases do you expect them to appeal, Jeff? When are you going to accept that this is unconstitutional? This is what happens in banana republics, not free countries.
Trump is pushing the limits of his executive power. No other president has acted in such a manner. It will result in a great deal of court cases.
 
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