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Trump won by about 1.5% against a bad Democratic candidate who promoted the status quo. Trump's win was not based on a set of great policies. Trump had one sure fire winner: immigration.
Many people think DOGE, tariffs and breaking long standing alliances are terrible policy. They see Republicans trying to impeach judges for disagreeing with the president.
I see many posts stating the Democratic party is hopelessly loss. The only thing the Democratic party needs is new leadership.

Part of this equation is that Trump has high negatives as well. A better candidate would have won by a bigger landslide. It’s not the messaging, it’s the message. Dems will first need to come to terms with that.
 
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Great read. You could replace the start of these three paragraphs with Jeff argues...

Critics argue that border policies and tariffs contribute to inflation. There’s some truth to that. Restricting cheap labor and foreign goods can push prices up. But here’s the crucial point: Wages rise, too. When companies must pay fair wages to domestic workers, those workers have more money to spend. That offsets price increases and sustains consumer demand.

Another factor is supply chains. When we build products in America, we don’t just support workers, we also reduce our dependence on fragile international supply chains that leave us vulnerable in crises – as we learned during the COVID pandemic. And for those concerned about the environment, reducing global shipping – one of the worst polluters on the planet – aligns tariffs with sustainability goals.

Staying the course of the past few decades is far worse in the long run, too. Relying on cheap labor and imports may keep prices down temporarily, but it suppresses wages. That’s a slow road to economic stagnation and unsurmountable national security vulnerabilities, one that leaves American workers unable to sustain their families or the broader economy and our nation obsolete on a global stage, or worse, prone to invasion.
 
Democrats should follow the Bill Clinton / Democrat Leadership Council model.

The party tried blaming their plunge on messaging and leadership back then too. Clinton knew better. Same deal now.

Yep, Clinton edged out an even more reasonable choice in Paul Tsongas. Lately, the semi-reasonable choices get pushed aside early with few votes - Webb (?), Gabbard to name a couple.

However, the current iteration of the Democrat party has attracted a Reagan conservative in Jeff, so they must be doing something right.
 
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What is the limit on the judges' jurisdiction that you see?
You have a law degree.


Is the Judicial Branch superior to the Executive Branch, particularly on non-legal matters involving foreign affairs and national security?

How many local judges does it take to approve of everything the ExecutiveBranch does in foreign affairs and national security?

At what point do we allow it to become common place for both sides to tie up the Executive Branch in court to keep our country from functioning expeditiously?

Again, this judge is swimming upstream against the will of the people. Not a good look for the Dems to be on the side of violent gang members.
 
Great read. You could replace the start of these three paragraphs with Jeff argues...

Critics argue that border policies and tariffs contribute to inflation. There’s some truth to that. Restricting cheap labor and foreign goods can push prices up. But here’s the crucial point: Wages rise, too. When companies must pay fair wages to domestic workers, those workers have more money to spend. That offsets price increases and sustains consumer demand.

Another factor is supply chains. When we build products in America, we don’t just support workers, we also reduce our dependence on fragile international supply chains that leave us vulnerable in crises – as we learned during the COVID pandemic. And for those concerned about the environment, reducing global shipping – one of the worst polluters on the planet – aligns tariffs with sustainability goals.

Staying the course of the past few decades is far worse in the long run, too. Relying on cheap labor and imports may keep prices down temporarily, but it suppresses wages. That’s a slow road to economic stagnation and unsurmountable national security vulnerabilities, one that leaves American workers unable to sustain their families or the broader economy and our nation obsolete on a global stage, or worse, prone to invasion.
Out of those points I think the strategic issues, both manufacturing capacity/capability, and the supply chain vulnerability are the biggies that the pandemic did indeed reveal.

Free trade is fine as long as it is bidirectional, not unidirectional, with the possible exception of a few vital strategic capabilities, otherwise fair trade (same tariff obstacles in both directions) is okay too.
 
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You have a law degree.


Is the Judicial Branch superior to the Executive Branch, particularly on non-legal matters involving foreign affairs and national security?

How many local judges does it take to approve of everything the ExecutiveBranch does in foreign affairs and national security?

At what point do we allow it to become common place for both sides to tie up the Executive Branch in court to keep our country from functioning expeditiously?

Again, this judge is swimming upstream against the will of the people. Not a good look for the Dems to be on the side of violent gang members.
It is simple in this situation. Forget the Foreign policy, national security red herrings. Before someone is removed from the U.S., they are entitled to have a judicial officer determine that they are the person the Government claims them to be and in the case of an alien, an illegal alien. That is Due Process of law as guaranteed by the Constitution. How would you like a government official accuse you of being an illegal, putting you on a plane without a chance to prove that you are a natural born citizen?
 
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It is simple in this situation. Forget the Foreign policy, national security red herrings. Before someone is removed from the U.S., they are entitled to have a judicial officer determine that they are the person the Government claims them to be and in the case of an alien, an illegal alien. That is Due Process of law as guaranteed by the Constitution. How would you like a government official accuse you of being and illegal, putting you on a plane without a chance to prove that you are a natural born citizen?

Is that happening? Genuinely curious because that would be terrible.

I’ve read stories about a few American citizens being detained, but then quickly released.
 
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Trump won by about 1.5% against a bad Democratic candidate who promoted the status quo. Trump's win was not based on a set of great policies. Trump had one sure fire winner: immigration.
Many people think DOGE, tariffs and breaking long standing alliances are terrible policy. They see Republicans trying to impeach judges for disagreeing with the president.
I see many posts stating the Democratic party is hopelessly loss. The only thing the Democratic party needs is new leadership.
You clearly are and only talk to dems….. your opinions carry no weight, unfortunately.
 
So Jack ruby apparently met with Oswald days before JFK was shot. Not weird at all…not to mention they let Ruby assasinate Oswald with such ease…..
 
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It is simple in this situation. Forget the Foreign policy, national security red herrings. Before someone is removed from the U.S., they are entitled to have a judicial officer determine that they are the person the Government claims them to be and in the case of an alien, an illegal alien. That is Due Process of law as guaranteed by the Constitution. How would you like a government official accuse you of being and illegal, putting you on a plane without a chance to prove that you are a natural born citizen?
Maybe you people shouldn’t have deliberately opened our borders and in fact flew them in. Deliberate.
 
You seem to hold MAGA beliefs pretty strongly based on your posts. You are happy with Trump. The Democrats won't target voters like you, it would be a waste of time and resources. Dems will target disillusioned Trump voters.

What is the message from Dems right now? What do they care about? They constantly tell us what they don’t care about, and mock the other side, but seemingly have no message of their own. Just anti Trump/Elon, and their position easily shifts on every position. They are not just selling their EVs for gas guzzlers, they are now harassing the EV owners. Just a lost party.

Other than abortion, an open border, no spending cuts, and higher taxes, don’t know what the Dems stand for. Not a clue. And only 1 of those is popular with the middle class.
 
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We will see when he is out from Trump's shadow.
Trump's successor will be MAGA because Trump's successor will need Trump's voters. It may shock you, but Trump's massive victory was attributable to his ability to attract disadvantaged/low-propensity voters along with Democrats who had been abandoned by their party (RFK Jr, Tulsi, etc.).

You won't be voting for JD unless you have a head injury in the next 4 years.
 
What is the message from Dems right now? What do they care about? They constantly tell us what they don’t care about, and mock the other side, but seemingly have no message of their own. Just anti Trump/Elon, and their position easily shifts on every position. They are not just selling their EVs for gas guzzlers, they are now harassing the EV owners. Just a lost party.

Other than abortion, an open border, and no spending cuts, I don’t know what the Dems stand for. Not a clue.

Yep, at least the climate hoax is over. The Dems used it to control the masses and keep people down. There should be no additional subsidies for any of this green crap. If it can't stand on its own (see Nikola Motors), it should wither on the vine and die.
 
Is that happening? Genuinely curious because that would be terrible.

I’ve read stories about a few American citizens being detained, but then quickly released.
Doesn't matter. The point is that Due Process allows for impartial officer to determine those facts. What you are arguing is that it is OK for police to pick up and execute a believed killer, if they happen to be right in a case. Really? You need a procedure that allows a court officer to decide.
 
It’s always been fairly obvious that while Oswald was almost certainly the lone gunman, there was a criminal conspiracy to kill JFK. The mob probably found a weirdo crazy enough to carry it out in Oswald.
 
That’s a softball question if there ever was one. How about we start with an order to turn around a plane that was no longer in US airspace.
Airspace and the border are immaterial, anyone asserting otherwise is a liar or did not attend law school. If you lived in Detroit or El Paso and you are arrested, the Constitution requires that you be brought before a judicial officer promptly to determine if you are the person sought and there is probable cause to believe you violated the criminal law. If the Judge tells the state that you are the wrong person or there is no probable cause, the state would be ordered to release you. If the state threw you into a car and drove you across the border could the state argue that they are not subject to the order? Of course not, silly argument for Trump to raise. Same goes to an order telling the state to hold off on the deport and bring the person back to court for further hearing.
 
It’s always been fairly obvious that while Oswald was almost certainly the lone gunman, there was a criminal conspiracy to kill JFK. The mob probably found weirdo crazy enough to carry it out in Oswald.
Possible as that also explains Jack Ruby, a long time associate of the Chicago mob.
 
Your ilk is doing this all over the west. Foreigners that illegally enter the country don’t have constitutional rights.
First everyone has rights to due process, second how do you determine that they entered the country illegally if you don't have a due process hearing? YEAH!!! If the hearing officer finds mistaken identity or that they are legal, they could stay, if not deport them. How difficult is that?
 
It is simple in this situation. Forget the Foreign policy, national security red herrings. Before someone is removed from the U.S., they are entitled to have a judicial officer determine that they are the person the Government claims them to be and in the case of an alien, an illegal alien. That is Due Process of law as guaranteed by the Constitution. How would you like a government official accuse you of being an illegal, putting you on a plane without a chance to prove that you are a natural born citizen?
 
Obviously you don't see the difference about whether to grant a visa to a "supposed" spouse, to picking up and holding and deporting a person without any determination by any official, or contrary to a judge's order.
 
Obviously you don't see the difference about whether to grant a visa to a "supposed" spouse, to picking up and holding and deporting a person without any determination by any official, or contrary to a judge's order.
Were these not gang members that were designated a terrorist organization from another country?

So, POTUS can drop a bomb on them, but not deport them?
 
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Is that happening? Genuinely curious because that would be terrible.

I’ve read stories about a few American citizens being detained, but then quickly released.
I realize it's a different matter than this case, but one they designate a person a terrorist a lot of constitutional protections are suspended. Even for citizens. There was a case that got some notoriety of a previous president having executed a US citizen (who probably was involved in terrorism, but never had a day in court). Regarding this case, the five actual plaintiffs were not deported so they'll get their day, and through that the courts will have a chance to weigh in on the applicability of the law to the circumstances and perhaps clarify what standards to satisfy anyone falling under this category (known members of designated terrorist organizations here illegally and operating against the law who arrived via the cooperation of a foreign government). It's always a scary prospect that the extraordinary powers allowed under the banner of national security get turned on US citizens or co-opted by politics. Many can probably remember a few questionable occurrences in the last 8-9 years.

On the other side of the coin it's not hard to see how a situation where a president can't address an urgent, time critical situation because he can't act until he gets permission through the courts could be disastrous.

Issuing orders to military assets engaged in a mission from the bench is a separate matter.
 
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Doesn't matter. The point is that Due Process allows for impartial officer to determine those facts. What you are arguing is that it is OK for police to pick up and execute a believed killer, if they happen to be right in a case. Really? You need a procedure that allows a court officer to decide.

So Dems are once again freaking out about something that might not even be happening?

Literally no one is arguing it is Ok to execute people without a trial.

People aren’t upset that Venezuelan prison members, who wouldn’t have been allowed in the country if properly vetted, are now getting deported without a court case using more govt dollars. No one is getting executed, relax.
 
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