I think most people want a government that governs in such a way that promotes the interests and well being of US citizens first and foremost. They want better economic opportunities for their children (which dovetails with the repatriation of key strategic industries and supply chains), secure borders, a ready military that is not engaged in endless overseas wars, and an honest, efficient, transparent government. That's the "MAGA" agenda. There's a little room to stake out different means to that end, but they won't be able to get away with giving lip service that directly contradicts what they are off doing. Increasingly they are seeing through the obfuscation and spin put on events. They wouldn't want a judge impeached simply because he or she rules against a president, but they would support removal of a judge who is making at the very best very, vert dubious rulings that Occam's Razor would tell us is motivated by the bout of heavy breathing they get trying to dunk on a duly-elected POTUS and interfere with the executives ability to do what the people voted for rather than any constitutional or legal basis.
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The public agrees with Trump on many issues. His drop in approval ratings is due to just one issue… tariffs.
All you did in your post is repeat MAGA policy and state everyone wants it. I know many people who would disagree with your characterization of the judicial issue including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. There are people who believe free trade is the way to prosperity. There are people who believe massive cuts to government spending is not the way to go. There are people who believe that America should take a leadership role on the world stage and not look to break alliances with long time allies. There are large groups of people who believe the path to a secure and prosperous US is a very different path than MAGA.
The problem was, the other path looked worse. We saw our “leadership” under Biden. It was nonexistent. Harris seemed to be in the same ballpark. Couldn’t think of a single thing she would do different than Biden. The Dem party read the room incredibly poorly.
Wrong.
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Trump won by about 1.5% against a bad Democratic candidate who promoted the status quo. Trump's win was not based on a set of great policies. Trump had one sure fire winner: immigration.
Many people think DOGE, tariffs and breaking long standing alliances are terrible policy. They see Republicans trying to impeach judges for disagreeing with the president.
I see many posts stating the Democratic party is hopelessly loss. The only thing the Democratic party needs is new leadership.
So the most accurate polling firm for the 2024 election is now wrong? 🤔Wrong.
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Watching the Dem party continue platforming people like Schumer and Walz kind of confirms the party is lost. Acknowledging it is the first step.
The leader of the Dem party couldn’t think of 1 thing she would do differently. They flew in a freaking Venezuelan prison gang and she couldn’t think of a single thing. That’s a broken party.
Two are assumptions as a person that hates all Trump with TDS
Sure there are people who believe all kinds of things. I know people who do not want what is best for the US writ large, who only want what's best for themselves in the short run. I know which way some of them vote too, and all those whom I do know how they vote, vote in one direction over the last three elections. At least they are honest in why they vote the way they do.
I said people can have differing visions on how to reach the end goals, and if the (D)s want success in the near term, I believe they have to pursue the same end goals as the MAGA folks want, but they have to come up with a believable means to the end. As a voter I don't want to hear about how not to do it. Tell me how you are going to do it.
The end is a difficult road no matter how you slice it, and it's easy to pick at individual components of a plan, and to get caught up in (often disingenuous and hypocritical) hyperbole. What I'd say to Democrats is state your goals clearly, then put together a well thought out plan, and sell me on it. Then maybe you'll get more of my votes. I will not vote for professional opposers or people who will attempt no meaningful change in a positive direction, no matter what they say they are for or against. I learned long ago to forget what politicians say, to watch what they do, and judge them on what they actually accomplish.
His tariffs are bringing manufacturing back to the US. The only people who don’t like how he is using tariffs/the threat of tariffs are the globalists who have screwed the US for almost 50 years. Trumps approval ratings are at 50%.
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And I think a misrepresentation of what the tariff activity is about.
Imagine, for example, if he imposed a 245% tariff on anything coming from Canada, yet that's what many of our farmers face in accessing Canadian markets. I'm mostly for no tariifs in any direction anywhere, but iff there is no government manipulation through anti-competitive subsidies (that means you, China). Short of that, tariffs that are equal in both directions so no one derives a net advantage from their government's tariff policies.
What I don't like is using tariffs as a negotiating tool for other issues. It might actually wind up working, people outside the country have a strong drive to put our money in their pocket. We'll see in a year if it's effective. It obfuscates the message of seeking long term trade fairness of which tariffs are a part, and the conflation is low fruit for critics.
This is pure fantasy. Any leader that is marched out right now that has any hint of being a moderate, will be taking on water immediately from the far left that currently controls the party. Newsome is trying. His problem is how he governed California.
Any new leader will be stapled to these nutty and unpopular policies.
The people that understand how Trump uses tariffs and also reciprocal tariffs are sanguine.
Newscum has what clear thinking people would be saying him having an unfortunate track record of governing San Fran AND Callie into tent cities or burned properties throughout the State.
You seem to hold MAGA beliefs pretty strongly based on your posts. You are happy with Trump. The Democrats won't target voters like you, it would be a waste of time and resources. Dems will target disillusioned Trump voters.
I do not own one, but their technology is pretty ingenious.
There is news going around the World, that ARE triumphs !
1. Cease fire in a war that was going into it's FOURTH year !
( US in WW 2 was 1941 to 1945 !)
2. Space X returns astronauts left in space for 9 months !
(They were originally scheduled to be there for a little more than a week !)
1. Cease fire in a war that was going into it's FOURTH year !
( US in WW 2 was 1941 to 1945 !)
2. Space X returns astronauts left in space for 9 months !
(They were originally scheduled to be there for a little more than a week !)
I don’t care about free trade. I care about “fair trade”. Free trade f’d the average US Joe from good paying jobs right out of High School thanks to US-chartered global multinationals that are like parasites moving everywhere for cheap labor and resources until they aren’t as cheap any more and they move yet again after bleeding that area dry. No loyalty to their home country, the US. Bad! Fair trade and tariffs or the threat thereof not only make foreign countries think about how they can get around the tariffs by manufacturing in the US (still an economic power), but also force US based global manufacturers to consider decisions based upon the ethics of helping the home team versus just using free enterprise zones as a way of making things elsewhere and just assembling them in the US. NAFTA has never been the benefit that it was supposed to provide. I provided a link to an article that discussed diehard free trade as something that stifles US innovation, which also allows easier IP theft, too.
I removed the LOL from my post. I thought I was responding to Jeff, who is clueless. OTOH, OhioIllini is sincere in his belief on that.
Jeff, please don't take other people for fools. No one is talking about impeaching a judge for disagreeing with the President. No, the impeachment would be over a very clear overreach of jurisdiction.
To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with Trump's views and actions on tariffs. I was pointing out it could explain some change in polling data.
Mary Anne buys US butter in bulk @ 4 pounds at a time.
Big Box stores up here W of WP @ $ 13.62 today = $ 3.40 a pound.
262 % Canadian current tariff on American 1 pound of butter = $ 8.90 approx. US butter in Canada.
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This is not radically right. His policies aren’t full abortion bans, bans on tranny surgeries, outlawing homo marriage and things like that. DOGE is uncovering government waste, fraud and abuse. Why the F isn’t every damn citizen happy about this? Because the politicians whose bread is buttered by this waste, fraud and abuse are telling everyone that exposing and eliminating all that is bad. Half of this country believes the idiots like Mark Kelly, Schumer, Pelosi, AOC, Newsom and the rest of the idiots you worship.
This country needs the Trump administration and DOGE. The fact that you lefties hate it lets me know it’s spot on.
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To me it appears the Dems are at the crossroads Republicans were after running out McCain and Romney, who were losers that didn’t represent most of the party. They represented neocons/free trade diehards. Zero persuasion of other races and lower/middle class folks. The Republicans took beating after beating from 06 onward. If Obama had played his cards right, he would have not lost Congress, but overall the Republicans continued placing the wrong leadership in front of the cameras. Romney was absolutely stiff and plain as a paper plate. So behind in thinking or willfully blind to China because after all, he was a wealthy finance geek. Enter Trump. Obama and the Dems’ message was too far left. Hillary was the worst Dem candidate ever (until Harris). Trump has always been friendly with regular joes. He needed regular joes to build real estate, to work his casinos, to work his golf clubs. He was always around the common man as a very rich man. He understands them and is able to communicate with them. Always around sports. Friends of sports figures of all races, ethnicities. Dramatic gains from 2016 to 2024. This is what I had been waiting for for many decades for the Republican Party. The Democrats have nobody who can do that. I don’t see them finding that person quickly. They may be in the wilderness, at least from a Presidential leadership standpoint, for at least the 2028 elections, maybe a bit longer. They don’t have any policies they can articulate that the majority of Americans agree with. Until they actually support strong border policies, smaller, more efficient government, no forever wars and support the American worker and not people who look in the mirror and think they are elite despite all evidence to the contrary, they will be in the wilderness.
One of the most idiotic posts on this board. Congrats.
Interesting commentary
A Secure Border and Aggressive Tariffs Go Together
A Secure Border and Aggressive Tariffs Go Together
I just closed out EVERY option trade I had open.
Every one was PROFITABLE !
Like Puts on Boeing ! Who needed Elon to rescue the Astronauts left by Biden !
Just be sanguine !
From what I've seen,
You might be right, it would take a lot of work for the (D)s to come up with something beyond their tired tropes that (R)s are fascist, racist, misogynist, transphope, xenophobes, and relying telling a few lies while printing some money to throw around to distract voters from their cozy obeisance to their oligarch bedfellows, and maybe they can find future success in that. The first step in fixing a problem is admitting you have one and maybe that's too much to ask of them. And why would they want to expend effort to pick up a swing vote?
I do have to admit that there's a strong overlap between MAGA values and the traditional liberal/(D) environment I was raised in--what you could call Kennedy Democrats. I'm a few baby steps to the right of that, always have been, but still much closer to that than either what passes for the contemporary (D) party platforms or the neocons/tea partyers of the recent past. It's more of a case of the so-called MAGA movement landing near me than me being drawn to them.
Regarding Trump 47 I'm still observing. If he builds on the successes of his first term rather than its failures, I might be happy with him in the end. He can be his own worst enemy.
I still think that to pick up enough disaffected Trump voters the (D)s will still have to offer more than a reversion to the status quo of the Biden era with open borders, endless wars, outsourcing of business, exploding public debt, and tolerance to international trade practices that are almost uniformly arranged to be put the US in the disadvantaged position.
But what do I know?
I'm simply a pro-American voter, and yeah, right now the (R)s more closely reflect my values. If I thought MAGA was what you characterize it to be, I would generally be against it.
You might be right, it would take a lot of work for the (D)s to come up with something beyond their tired tropes that (R)s are fascist, racist, misogynist, transphope, xenophobes, and relying telling a few lies while printing some money to throw around to distract voters from their cozy obeisance to their oligarch bedfellows, and maybe they can find future success in that. The first step in fixing a problem is admitting you have one and maybe that's too much to ask of them. And why would they want to expend effort to pick up a swing vote?
I do have to admit that there's a strong overlap between MAGA values and the traditional liberal/(D) environment I was raised in--what you could call Kennedy Democrats. I'm a few baby steps to the right of that, always have been, but still much closer to that than either what passes for the contemporary (D) party platforms or the neocons/tea partyers of the recent past. It's more of a case of the so-called MAGA movement landing near me than me being drawn to them.
Regarding Trump 47 I'm still observing. If he builds on the successes of his first term rather than its failures, I might be happy with him in the end. He can be his own worst enemy.
I still think that to pick up enough disaffected Trump voters the (D)s will still have to offer more than a reversion to the status quo of the Biden era with open borders, endless wars, outsourcing of business, exploding public debt, and tolerance to international trade practices that are almost uniformly arranged to be put the US in the disadvantaged position.
But what do I know?
Jeff is against this naturally. Yet another solid action being taken to reduce Biden inflation.
Daddy is back and Jeff definitely has Daddy issues
Daddy is back and Jeff definitely has Daddy issues
Here's one thing you likely don't know. In previous discussions, Jeff characterized himself as a Reagan conservative!
The hilarious part is Jeff is now an extreme lefty like all true Democrats. They call Trump a far-right Nazi, unable to recognize that as they have moved to the extreme left, the issues once central to the Democrat party have been seized by MAGA - fair trade, protect the worker, peace, abortion up to 15 weeks, etc. While true that the Democrats and MAGA are far apart, the reason for it is that as MAGA moves left the Democrats move further left. The result is non-political people and reasonable Democrats are forced to join MAGA (Musk, Rogan, etc.).
Chuck and Nancy are extremists, but they are no longer extreme enough for Jeff and friends.
Because they are doing it in a compeltely chaotic and half-assed manner, plus the numbers they give out are pure BS. Billions instead of millions on some, claiming credit for saving millions on a contract they terminated, but it was only like $145,000, and it ended when George W, Bush was President, like claiming people over 120, 150 are getting Social Security. A clown show for the gullible.
People that have loyalty to foreign countries are loathesome….
Democrats should follow the Bill Clinton / Democrat Leadership Council model.
The party tried blaming their plunge on messaging and leadership back then too. Clinton knew better. Same deal now.
The party tried blaming their plunge on messaging and leadership back then too. Clinton knew better. Same deal now.
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