An Associates Degree from a community college is enough to give a green card. Asinine. Another ignorant statement.
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and in other news: NY apparently has a special election pending to replace Elise Stefanik except it hasn't been scheduled yet. From what I read there will not be a primary; the local party chairs will pick the Republican and Dem candidates. At least on the Republican side, there appears to be a lot of interested candidates.
In Florida, they have primaries on Jan 28, with the special elections on April 1. Florida will choose 2 congress members.
In Florida, they have primaries on Jan 28, with the special elections on April 1. Florida will choose 2 congress members.
You don’t understand my post. Vivek is wrong, because he thinks people focused on sports are focused incorrectly. I can name all sorts of very bright folks who played and “focused” on sports. Illinois has NASA astronaut for starters. Doctors, PT’s, people at the Ivy’s who played sports end up doing well. RDS was captain of his baseball team. Susan Rice played softball at Boston College, etc. He doesn’t understand that particular issue very well. It sounds more like these Indian CEO’s may be the ones who have a problem with race.
The rest of your post is a distraction from the conversation you originally created regarding Vivek.
That was such a tiny part of his overall message, and a very strange part to focus on. He didn’t say people shouldn’t play sports. He was implying we should celebrate excellence in school as much as we do sports, if not more.
He said much more than that, and a lot of it you would have agreed with if hadn’t made comments about Indian CEOs. If he just talked about us being a country that celebrates mediocrity, that’s a position that we have all talked about on this board.
I understand your position perfectly. You want to dismiss his overall message by picking apart a small piece of his post.
Now get back to telling me that he’s terrible while also complaining about safe spaces and woke schools.
Navy WON the game !
Also the Navy QB outran the ENTIRE Okie team for a Navy AND Bowl game 95 yard run !
Interesting who liked this post. They know math scores are plummeting but are still upset about Vivek’s comments. We probably do need to look at what we are focusing on this country.
Sports can always be a part of our society. Education should be a big part too, and we have failed there in recent years.
You don’t read very well and are willfully misrepresenting what I am stating because you didn’t quite vote straight ticket and you look more like you’re going straight jacket, Mr. I’msoindependent.
We celebrate Valedictorians. We still have Magna Cum Laude and Summa Cum Laude recognition. There is a metric crap ton of educational scholarships available that dwarf athletic scholarship money across all levels of college. I’m not going to get back to saying Vivek is terrible, because I never said he was terrible. I said he was wrong. Is this really the best you can do? Did stonedaxe steal your password? Have all the Venezuelan gangs been deported from your neighborhood?
Regret? Lol.
This is similar to what Australia did when I worked on a visa there - an equivalent Australian salary had to be paid in order for one to be issued to me (filling a role that only a cleared US citizen could do). Make it expensive and the abuse will be very limited
Thank God I voted for DJT
This is similar to what Australia did when I worked on a visa there - an equivalent Australian salary had to be paid in order for one to be issued to me (filling a role that only a cleared US citizen could do). Make it expensive and the abuse will be very limited
Thank God I voted for DJT
I just finished reading the entirety of Sterling’s thread. I was going to place it here, but you essentially beat me to the punch. It’s great info.
Dr. Jill teaches at a Community College !
I am sure she is an inspiration to her students !
Has anyone been interested to find and examine her Doctoral paper for plagiarism ?
So let’s allow anyone from a foreign country attend there by giving a green card to them.
Have you interviewed any young people in recent years? I have, and I talk to HR people on a regular basis. We haven’t even mentioned some of the changes that people have seen in recent years. I’m going to make some generalizations here, but I’ve seen this play out, and have heard about it several times….
You know what foreign workers don’t ask in an interview?
- How many days a week do I have to come in the office? This is often the first question young people ask now.
- How many vacation days do I get in my first year?
- Can you tell me about your DEI program? Do you have any ERGs that I can join?
They are much more likely to ask….
- what type of work are you looking to execute and when can I start?
Foreign workers never ask you to use their pronouns (never listed on foreign resumes, often on young Americans’ resume) or ask for special accommodations. The ones that are here to improve their lives are thinking about when they can begin and how they can get to the next level.
HR departments and CEOs don’t want to hire people that are going to cause problems and make demands. Those things are much more likely to happen with an American kid coming from a broken system than they are a foreign worker that just wants to work. American workers are much more litigious too, and much more likely to go after a company for something minor (remember the obsession with microagressions? That’s mainly an American thing.)
Thinking Vivek is wrong is ignoring someone that has heard these conversations from CEOs, owners, etc.
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Not once have I said people from other countries perform better. It’s almost like there are other factors that cause companies to hire foreign workers. Vivek told you one of the factors, and you are dismissing him. This is all so hilarious.
MAGA Nov 2024 - “Elon and Vivek are going to clean this shit up. Less worrying about feelings and more transparency. More efficiency.”
MAGA Dec 2024 - “Vivek was transparent and I don’t like it. He’s wrong. Whaaaaa”
MAGA Dec 2024 - “Vivek was transparent and I don’t like it. He’s wrong. Whaaaaa”
Just to be clear, we had young people that were incapable of going to class or work after the election didn’t go their way, but you also think we don’t have a culture problem?
People that come here for the right reasons don’t give a shit about stuff like that, and are just here to work. Companies like people that put their heads down and work, instead of looking for reasons they shouldn’t have to.
Now I’m sure I’ll hear about how hard our young people work. Meanwhile our young people are looking for the newest mouse wiggling technology.
People that come here for the right reasons don’t give a shit about stuff like that, and are just here to work. Companies like people that put their heads down and work, instead of looking for reasons they shouldn’t have to.
Now I’m sure I’ll hear about how hard our young people work. Meanwhile our young people are looking for the newest mouse wiggling technology.
Just to be clear, people are upset that American companies are choosing mediocre foreign talent over the top American talent?
But also upset that someone said American culture embraces mediocrity?
Again, quite the corner you guys have backed yourself into.
You want another glaring example? Look at what has happened to American basketball and the NBA. There is zero doubt that the USA has the most basketball talent in the world. Unfortunately, our development sucks. The best talents in Europe are pushed into pro programs in their early to mid teens and train with pros, and pro coaches. No garbage AAU where the top talent plays against kids that don’t even make it to college basketball. No 20 hour weekly practice limits. No time wasted acting like they are going to class for a semester or longer. Just structured, intentional development. The top talents here in America don’t have a path like that, unless they go overseas. Pretty crazy, right? Mediocrity, when it comes to basketball player development.
American soccer is another example. Are you guys seeing it yet? Take off those angry red glasses and be curious for a second.
American soccer is another example. Are you guys seeing it yet? Take off those angry red glasses and be curious for a second.
For the last 4 years, MAGA has complained that the quest for diversity, equity, and inclusion has been prioritized over quality. Our math scores are plummeting, our service industry provides less quality service, our schools indoctrinate instead of educate, etc.
Trump was voted in to get rid of this prioritization, or so I thought. Apparently not.
Trump was voted in to get rid of this prioritization, or so I thought. Apparently not.
This American educational competitiveness issus has multiple angles:
1) Social media has distorted our perceptions. The emphasis is now all on the outliers as anyone can post them and we think of them as displaying a new normal. We've always had lazy basket weaving majors from No Name U but now we hear about them every day. My extended family is chock full of liberals yet I don't know of one of them distraught enough over Trumps's victory that they couldn't go to work or school the next day. This is not to say there aren't some disturbing trends.
2) Comparing Indian immigrants to the average American is not all that useful. Indian (and Chinese) immigrants are, by and large, la creme de la creme from those countries. If education in India was so advanced then why is it still a third world country? The more important phenomenon is these people want to come to the USA and generally pick it over most any other destination (or even staying home).
3) Vivek Ramaswamy makes some good points, even if they are uncomfortable to some. However, his example of the Indian-decent CEO is not a particularly good one. If anything, it shows the inherent racism in that CEO's line of thinking. Though editing can distort some conclusions, we're left with the real possibility that CEO would hire a native of India over, say, someone from some other group even if that native of India is less qualified.
4) The USA's willingness to hand out money to most anyone to be educated in most anything has had two negative effects: it's made education more expensive and it fuels a culture of education as an end in itself instead of eduction as a higher end trade school from which to launch a career.
1) Social media has distorted our perceptions. The emphasis is now all on the outliers as anyone can post them and we think of them as displaying a new normal. We've always had lazy basket weaving majors from No Name U but now we hear about them every day. My extended family is chock full of liberals yet I don't know of one of them distraught enough over Trumps's victory that they couldn't go to work or school the next day. This is not to say there aren't some disturbing trends.
2) Comparing Indian immigrants to the average American is not all that useful. Indian (and Chinese) immigrants are, by and large, la creme de la creme from those countries. If education in India was so advanced then why is it still a third world country? The more important phenomenon is these people want to come to the USA and generally pick it over most any other destination (or even staying home).
3) Vivek Ramaswamy makes some good points, even if they are uncomfortable to some. However, his example of the Indian-decent CEO is not a particularly good one. If anything, it shows the inherent racism in that CEO's line of thinking. Though editing can distort some conclusions, we're left with the real possibility that CEO would hire a native of India over, say, someone from some other group even if that native of India is less qualified.
4) The USA's willingness to hand out money to most anyone to be educated in most anything has had two negative effects: it's made education more expensive and it fuels a culture of education as an end in itself instead of eduction as a higher end trade school from which to launch a career.
Have I interviewed young people lately? Yes. I am an owner/CEO. My large company (by government standards) is a no drama zone. Unfortunately for the Indian CEO’s they will have to work through the American experience of having too many lawyers available for not enough work and get sued themselves.
American soccer. Years ago USA soccer hired a German to lead the organization. His comment was the US soccer has great athletes, but they are too robotic. That was a product of too much tournament ball and not enough focus on player development. Do you think you are the only person who has thought of this? You aren’t. I’ve had these conversations regarding youth sports and player development for 20 years with many other coaches and have tried to move parents to understand certain things. I can also tell you D1 coaches talk to the travel coaches, not the high school coaches these days in many sports. You are late to the party. You don’t seem to have a fix for it either. That cat isn’t going back into its bag.
Give it a rest, straight jacket. Trump hasn’t even taken office yet.
Excellence as in a world class pathological liar, one who only made it thru college because of Daddy, never went to top tier Law School, in fact is described as functionally illiterate by his staff, like one that escaped service because of Daddy, one that was backed by Daddy financially, like one that went bankrupt 6 times because of excellence, that tanked multiple endeavors because of excellence, became a serial cheater on spouses and best friend to a world class pedophile, excellent in having most cabinet members not support his reelection in fact state that he is unfit to be President. We sure got lucky!
I was within a stone’s throw of the White House because the USA only accepts excellence!!
I’m sure you know I was having some fun with this stuff.
I left my company a couple weeks ago for a new gig, start 1/6. Probably have too much time on my hands right now!
Going from a company with a massive DEI program to one that doesn’t have one at all and can’t wait. My last company was based in Bellevue, WA, and spent way too much time/$ on that shit. New company is based out of Indianapolis and I am pretty excited to leave the woke nonsense behind.
Sounds like a good move! I hope it’s a financial upgrade for you, too.
I can only comment on John at USNA and beyond in his record in various Computer Sciences.
At USNA he was slotted to completing what Courses are REQUIRED at USNA like what the Mid's call "Steam", which is something about producing power thru usage of steam. These required courses left him at about a 2.0 GPA, which is the MINIMUM allowed grades. So he was on the edge every semester of separation from USNA.
Then he took a required Computer Science course, basically a "how to operate" the computer USNA required you to purchase ! He got an A and that alerted him to CS. A special bonus is that CS courses take so many credits that the Foreign Language requirement is dropped !
His last 2 1/2 years at USNA and CS raised his GPA to 3.5 and no fear of being dismissed !
His second Shore assignment was to the Awards Board at the Washington Navy Yard and Pentagon gave him enough time to earn his Master's Degree, Summa Cum Lauda in Cyber Security and his eventual Top Security Clearance that lead to his civilian job with a multi-national computer company !
An American, born in NJ !
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