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If only the elites hadn't brought us social media - where about 20% of the population has decided they are an absolute majority - we wouldn't have to deal with the perpetual drumbeat of populist fever.

That doesn't exonerate leftist elites for their failings, but truth be told most of our problems are multifactorial and being an American in 2024 is among the best places to be in the history of man.
 
There is the false equivalency that you and the RW achieve by the use of projection. Does anyone believe that Biden is on Trump's level of sexual adventures or twistedness? But they come up with this BS diary of a daughter believed only by far RW media. Sound familiar with Hunter's lap top? They had to counter the argument that Trump and his family are corrupt, so the RW started the Biden Crime " family crap. Poop in pants? After Trumps nick name and lack of bowel control got publicized, very coincidental that Biden supposedly had a bowel accident. Pathetic.
 
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Apparently you beat me to the same exact response.

Also the Delaware DA may disagree with Republicans about whether Hunter committed certain crimes, but he'd never deny that the laptop is real.
It depends on whom you believe. Supposedly the laptop was left with a computer repair man who claimed to have such poor eyesight that he could not see who dropped it off. He became concerned after viewing the contents ( a perfectly responsible move by an honest shop ;) ) and delivered it to Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani delivered contents to Bannon and NY Post. Those sights along with FOX of course pushed the story that it was real and discloses crimes. No one except them and followers have stated that it was real. US Attorney never said it was real. Now with the arrest of the Russian agent by the FBI, the 50 some U.S. Security officials that wrote that it was Russian plant, feel vindicated.
I read and believe an analysis conducted by the utmost experts on computer data analysis from Johns Hopkins and maybe another school. The conclusion was that a small number of emails were from a Hunter Biden device, no conclusion how they got on the hard drive. The great number you could not tell if they originated on a Hunter laptop because the necessary signatures were not there. The expert stated that the hard drive was entered into and doctored so many times that any legal conclusion was impossible. Except one thing was certain, there were maybe a half dozen folders of information placed on the drive months and perhaps years after the laptop was supposedly dropped off in the shop by Hunter. You can read the analysis as reported by the Washington Post.
 
It depends on whom you believe. Supposedly the laptop was left with a computer repair man who claimed to have such poor eyesight that he could not see who dropped it off. He became concerned after viewing the contents ( a perfectly responsible move by an honest shop ;) ) and delivered it to Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani delivered contents to Bannon and NY Post. Those sights along with FOX of course pushed the story that it was real and discloses crimes. No one except them and followers have stated that it was real. US Attorney never said it was real. Now with the arrest of the Russian agent by the FBI, the 50 some U.S. Security officials that wrote that it was Russian plant, feel vindicated.
I read and believe an analysis conducted by the utmost experts on computer data analysis from Johns Hopkins and maybe another school. The conclusion was that a small number of emails were from a Hunter Biden device, no conclusion how they got on the hard drive. The great number you could not tell if they originated on a Hunter laptop because the necessary signatures were not there. The expert stated that the hard drive was entered into and doctored so many times that any legal conclusion was impossible. Except one thing was certain, there were maybe a half dozen folders of information placed on the drive months and perhaps years after the laptop was supposedly dropped off in the shop by Hunter. You can read the analysis as reported by the Washington Post.
I am not sure what planet you live on. Every sensible person knows that it was definitely Hunter's laptop. At least the smoke screen on the left still has some value in the far left corners of the party.
 
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Repeat it when there is a legit source. How convenient a pedo story about Biden when the Stormy case is in the news daily.
Depending on what year it is, Stormy claims to have had sex with Trump. This is not new news. Now, some years she insisted they did not have sex 🤷‍♂️
 
Depending on what year it is, Stormy claims to have had sex with Trump. This is not new news. Now, some years she insisted they did not have sex 🤷‍♂️

Which story do you believe?

There's only one that's credible.

Will be interesting to see if Trump testifies lolol.
 
Which story do you believe?

There's only one that's credible.

Will be interesting to see if Trump testifies lolol.
I honestly have no idea. Trump has consistently said he did not. She has said yes and no a variety of times. Do I care if Trump cheated on his wife and had consensual sex with another adult? Not really. Do I care if Ole Creepy Joe took inappropriate showers with his daughter or if he raped that lady that accused him? I hope he didn't do either, but it appears the daughter's diary is credible.

Neither is ideal. The lady that said Joe Biden raped her says Ole Creepy Joe used the DOJ to try and shut her up. That would be the biggest issue I can see in all of this monkey business. The DOJ along with some state and local government officials have stated and followed through on using their powers to help Ole Creepy Joe. We will see if it backfires.
 
I am not sure what planet you live on. Every sensible person knows that it was definitely Hunter's laptop. At least the smoke screen on the left still has some value in the far left corners of the party.
Except you can't find one sensible person that says that. You believe your sources, I will believe mine.
 
I honestly have no idea. Trump has consistently said he did not. She has said yes and no a variety of times. Do I care if Trump cheated on his wife and had consensual sex with another adult? Not really. Do I care if Ole Creepy Joe took inappropriate showers with his daughter or if he raped that lady that accused him? I hope he didn't do either, but it appears the daughter's diary is credible.

Neither is ideal. The lady that said Joe Biden raped her says Ole Creepy Joe used the DOJ to try and shut her up. That would be the biggest issue I can see in all of this monkey business. The DOJ along with some state and local government officials have stated and followed through on using their powers to help Ole Creepy Joe. We will see if it backfires.
OMG. You don't know if Trump had sex with Stormy, but you believe Biden raped someone. Is this the loon that said Biden fingered her while standing next to her.?
 
I honestly have no idea. Trump has consistently said he did not. She has said yes and no a variety of times. Do I care if Trump cheated on his wife and had consensual sex with another adult? Not really. Do I care if Ole Creepy Joe took inappropriate showers with his daughter or if he raped that lady that accused him? I hope he didn't do either, but it appears the daughter's diary is credible.

Neither is ideal. The lady that said Joe Biden raped her says Ole Creepy Joe used the DOJ to try and shut her up. That would be the biggest issue I can see in all of this monkey business. The DOJ along with some state and local government officials have stated and followed through on using their powers to help Ole Creepy Joe. We will see if it backfires.

LOL. More obfuscation and mentions of Biden. If you can't answer simple questions, you're losing the argument every time.

The lady who claims "Biden raped her" defected to Moscow. And you are discussing this person as if she's a serious story in the election. She is not. It is an absurdity, a canard to make people like yourself feel better about continued support of a shithead. I opted out.

Trump ****ed Stormy. Of course he did. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Her story ain't real favorable to him either, but whatever. Of course if he doesn't bury this story in 2016, he's long gone from our political memory. The chickens .. they be roostin'
 
Except you can't find one sensible person that says that. You believe your sources, I will believe mine.

You two both lie to yourselves, just in a different way. The laptop is real, no one in the MSM or involved with the Hunter Biden prosecutions disputes this at this point. Only left wing weirdos do.

Don't be a left or right wing weirdo.
 
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Here's the NYT saying the laptop is real.

People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.

 
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Imagine being a person so deeply delusional you can't admit Trump ****ed Stormy, no questions asked.

Imagine being a person so deeply delusional you don't think the Hunter Biden laptop was real.

You can find them arguing with each other in this chain.

What is the point gentlemen? Stop the spin, stop the BS. Trump is a shithead, Hunter Biden is a crook. Most Americans think both candidates suck donkey balls. Thanks again primary voters!
 
Here's the NYT saying the laptop is real.

People familiar with the investigation said prosecutors had examined emails between Mr. Biden, Mr. Archer and others about Burisma and other foreign business activity. Those emails were obtained by The New York Times from a cache of files that appears to have come from a laptop abandoned by Mr. Biden in a Delaware repair shop. The email and others in the cache were authenticated by people familiar with them and with the investigation.

Read the Washington Post analysis based on a Johns Hopkins expert, and 50 some US Intelligence experts, and you get a different story. Far from Loons.
 
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Read the Washington Post analysis based on a Johns Hopkins expert, and 50 some US Intelligence experts, and you get a different story. Far from Loons.

How about you just admit you are a complete hack and we move back into reality?

The 50 some experts said this BEFORE THE ELECTION. It turned out they were dead wrong. No shock, they wanted to discredit a late game election story that probably wasn't going to impact anything anyhow.
 
How about you just admit you are a complete hack and we move back into reality?

The 50 some experts said this BEFORE THE ELECTION. It turned out they were dead wrong. No shock, they wanted to discredit a late game election story that probably wasn't going to impact anything anyhow.
You didn't read my complete initial post. Opinion of Johns Hopkins Expert still valid. Intelligence experts feel vindicated as result of arrest of Russian intelligence official and Giuliani's minions' confession. You have your opinion I have mine. When you admit to being a hack I will consider doing so.
 
You didn't read my complete initial post. Opinion of Johns Hopkins Expert still valid. Intelligence experts feel vindicated as result of arrest of Russian intelligence official and Giuliani's minions' confession. You have your opinion I have mine. When you admit to being a hack I will consider doing so.

I still can't believe you got a law degree, and I'm being honest.

Dude ... the laptop is real. No credible human being contests this, but you don't care about being credible.
 
LOL. More obfuscation and mentions of Biden. If you can't answer simple questions, you're losing the argument every time.
I answered, "I honestly have no idea". You may not like that answer, but that was an answer. How the hell would I know what took place. I find it possible. I also know for a fact the person whose story you find credible has been lying about half the time she answers whether it happened.
 
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I still can't believe you got a law degree, and I'm being honest.

Dude ... the laptop is real. No credible human being contests this, but you don't care about being credible.
I thought somebody said thestonedaxe is a paralegal? I guess it doesn't really matter as there are well papered people down all sorts of rabbit holes.
 
I answered, "I honestly have no idea". You may not like that answer, but that was an answer. How the hell would I know what took place. I find it possible. I also know for a fact the person whose story you find credible has been lying about half the time she answers whether it happened.

And here I thought you weren't stupid. I do hope Trump testifies to deny the truth of the Stormy allegation lolol. Hint ... I'd bet against him doing that.

You and stoney are both disgracing yourselves with the idiocy today.
 
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LOL. More obfuscation and mentions of Biden. If you can't answer simple questions, you're losing the argument every time.

The lady who claims "Biden raped her" defected to Moscow. And you are discussing this person as if she's a serious story in the election. She is not. It is an absurdity, a canard to make people like yourself feel better about continued support of a shithead. I opted out.

Trump ****ed Stormy. Of course he did. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Her story ain't real favorable to him either, but whatever. Of course if he doesn't bury this story in 2016, he's long gone from our political memory. The chickens .. they be roostin'
Trump absolutely did the nasty with her, no matter how many documents she signed stating otherwise. We are 25 or so years beyond what the definition of is is.
 
Trump absolutely did the nasty with her, no matter how many documents she signed stating otherwise. We are 25 or so years beyond what the definition of is is.

Exactly. It's not hard to admit that Trump ****ed a porn star. Of course he did.

She signed because he paid her to say nothing, and she didn't feel comfortable violating the agreement on the basis she might lose $1M if she said she did. Should have said nothing.
 
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I still can't believe you got a law degree, and I'm being honest.

Dude ... the laptop is real. No credible human being contests this, but you don't care about being credible.
I’m telling you, dtrain79. You’re going to be part of the MAGA RW in stonedhead’s mind very, very soon.
 
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And here I thought you weren't stupid. I do hope Trump testifies to deny the truth of the Stormy allegation lolol. Hint ... I'd bet against him doing that.

You and stoney are both disgracing yourselves with the idiocy today.
This seems a little harsh, counselor.

How do you know for a fact they screwed?
 
This seems a little harsh, counselor.

How do you know for a fact they screwed?

1. He'd have never paid $130K if they didn't.
2. They'd have not been in contact with one another (which they were) prior to Trump's political career had they not banged.
3. She's testified to this under oath (I don't think she's ever testified under oath to the opposite).
4. There is no denial of the general circumstances of them meeting one another.
5. For years now, Trump has been rather restrained in any "denials" of the incident itself.

I could go on to laud myself as to how I'm being objective and so on, but that's not really evidence. One of the funnier things about the Trump era is that I detest the guy but I said for years the Russia collusion stuff was BS.
 
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1. He'd have never paid $130K if they didn't.
2. They'd have not been in contact with one another (which they were) prior to Trump's political career had they not banged.
3. She's testified to this under oath (I don't think she's ever testified under oath to the opposite).
4. There is no denial of the general circumstances of them meeting one another.
5. For years now, Trump has been rather restrained in any "denials" of the incident itself.

I could go on to laud myself as to how I'm being objective and so on, but that's not really evidence. One of the funnier things about the Trump era is that I detest the guy but I said for years the Russia collusion stuff was BS.
I see some evidence in there, but nothing factual. So, you believe wealthy people have never paid for NDAs even though they are innocent? Hmmm...ok

2018 on yahoo...Porn star Stormy Daniels, who has recently made headlines with reports that she had an affair with Donald Trump before he became president, has issued a statement denying that the affair took place.

In the statement, the authenticity of which has been verified with a representative of Daniels, states, “Over the past few weeks I have been asked countless times to comment on reports of an alleged sexual relationship I had with Donald Trump many, many, many years ago.”

The statement continues, “The fact of the matter is that each party to this alleged affair denied its existence on 2006, 2011, 2016, 2017 and now again in 2018. I am not denying this affair because I was paid ‘hush money’ as has been reported in overseas owned tabloids. I am denying this affair because it never happened.”


I found a variety of denials from Trump.

Like I have stated, I have no idea if they did or didn't. Sure, it could have happened. I really do not care.

I was sued for something I didn't do once. My lawyers considered paying them to go away. We didn't, but it was on the table. I assume people with massive wealth pay people to go away all of the time as opposed the alternative(potential embarrassment or larger payouts).

My post to you was "how do you know for a FACT they screwed". The answer is you don't, but you strongly believe they did.
 
I see some evidence in there, but nothing factual. So, you believe wealthy people have never paid for NDAs even though they are innocent? Hmmm...ok

2018 on yahoo...Porn star Stormy Daniels, who has recently made headlines with reports that she had an affair with Donald Trump before he became president, has issued a statement denying that the affair took place.

In the statement, the authenticity of which has been verified with a representative of Daniels, states, “Over the past few weeks I have been asked countless times to comment on reports of an alleged sexual relationship I had with Donald Trump many, many, many years ago.”

The statement continues, “The fact of the matter is that each party to this alleged affair denied its existence on 2006, 2011, 2016, 2017 and now again in 2018. I am not denying this affair because I was paid ‘hush money’ as has been reported in overseas owned tabloids. I am denying this affair because it never happened.”


I found a variety of denials from Trump.

Like I have stated, I have no idea if they did or didn't. Sure, it could have happened. I really do not care.

I was sued for something I didn't do once. My lawyers considered paying them to go away. We didn't, but it was on the table. I assume people with massive wealth pay people to go away all of the time as opposed the alternative(potential embarrassment or larger payouts).

My post to you was "how do you know for a FACT they screwed". The answer is you don't, but you strongly believe they did.

My dude, testimony under oath is a claim of fact. Maybe the Trump years have made you believe - as Trump does - you must actually see something or hear it for it to be true. Simple minds, I suppose. Which you don’t actually have, but which you are forcing yourself to say …

Also, I don’t believe it’s currently disputed that Trump slept with McDougal, who got a similar settlement.

One final comment. If Trump testifies that he didn’t have sex with her - which he can next week - the claim of fact is now disputed, and you have an argument because Trump - a first person - says it didn’t happen. Will he testify it didn’t happen? I’m betting he doesn’t.
 
I still can't believe you got a law degree, and I'm being honest.

Dude ... the laptop is real. No credible human being contests this, but you don't care about being credible.
Why then have I read credible reports that doubt it? I have trouble accepting anything as questionable of a laptop passed to Giuliani by a blind repairman, passed to Bannon, published by NY Post etc. Tell you what don't denigrate my profession and I won't denigrate yours. You are awful arrogant, I am being honest.
 
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My dude, testimony under oath is a claim of fact. Maybe the Trump years have made you believe - as Trump does - you must actually see something or hear it for it to be true. Simple minds, I suppose. Which you don’t actually have, but which you are forcing yourself to say …

Also, I don’t believe it’s currently disputed that Trump slept with McDougal, who got a similar settlement.

One final comment. If Trump testifies that he didn’t have sex with her - which he can next week - the claim of fact is now disputed, and you have an argument because Trump - a first person - says it didn’t happen. Will he testify it didn’t happen? I’m betting he doesn’t.
I think Trump would be dumb to take the stand. He’s a loose cannon. I assume his won’t. But as far as questioning whether he slept with her or not, he’s running around years ago talking about grabbing them by the pu$$y and they like it. It’s perfectly believable that if he saw a woman who met his appearance taste that the woman would fall over with her legs wide open and he wouldn’t think twice about banging the females was a good idea.

OTOH, we have the current POTUS’ son making millions from Burisma for no expertise other than access to the “big guy” who got 10%. We are supposed to believe that was all on the up and up.
 
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Why then have I read credible reports that doubt it? I have trouble accepting anything as questionable of a laptop passed to Giuliani by a blind repairman, passed to Bannon, published by NY Post etc. Tell you what don't denigrate my profession and I won't denigrate yours. You are awful arrogant, I am being honest.

Interestingly, it would be against interest for you to denigrate my profession.

I’m arrogant because I’m right. I don’t tolerate garbage just to defend “my team.” Hunter isn’t your client so you shouldn’t either.

And I hope you saw the Axios article I linked where Biden’s DOJ acknowledges in its own filings the laptop is real. Even if Rudy’s hair color is not.
 
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I see some evidence in there, but nothing factual. So, you believe wealthy people have never paid for NDAs even though they are innocent? Hmmm...ok

2018 on yahoo...Porn star Stormy Daniels, who has recently made headlines with reports that she had an affair with Donald Trump before he became president, has issued a statement denying that the affair took place.

In the statement, the authenticity of which has been verified with a representative of Daniels, states, “Over the past few weeks I have been asked countless times to comment on reports of an alleged sexual relationship I had with Donald Trump many, many, many years ago.”

The statement continues, “The fact of the matter is that each party to this alleged affair denied its existence on 2006, 2011, 2016, 2017 and now again in 2018. I am not denying this affair because I was paid ‘hush money’ as has been reported in overseas owned tabloids. I am denying this affair because it never happened.”


I found a variety of denials from Trump.

Like I have stated, I have no idea if they did or didn't. Sure, it could have happened. I really do not care.

I was sued for something I didn't do once. My lawyers considered paying them to go away. We didn't, but it was on the table. I assume people with massive wealth pay people to go away all of the time as opposed the alternative(potential embarrassment or larger payouts).

My post to you was "how do you know for a FACT they screwed". The answer is you don't, but you strongly believe they did.
Imagine performing these kind of mental gymnastics to defend a lifelong womanizer and cheater. Deranged.
 
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