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We had this discussion here during the pandemic. I warned then of the danger of turning over decision-making power to unelected public health “experts” rather officials who are accountable to the people.

Failing to understand this was one of the major failures of the first Trump administration and many of the governors around the country. They don’t understand how leadership works or how government is supposed to function. They absolutely did empower Fauci.

It’s not that experts necessarily have bad intentions. It’s that they are single issue people with tunnel vision. Fauci and Deborah Birx had no clue what the economic impact and devastating social consequences would be of their Draconian, oppressive mitigation measures.

(If JFK had listened to Curtis LeMay during the Cuban missle crisis he likely would have thrust us into a nuclear conflict with the Soviet Union)
Curtis never saw an enemy city he didn't want to bomb !
 
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Huh? Partisan gobbledygook is not actual argument, no matter how exciting on Newsmax.

There are times Dems are lawless (Biden vaccine mandates), but when the court determines it, the mandates disappeared. Weirdly, I oppose all lawless behavior by both teams, from the start.

Bad policy is not lawlessness. It sucks, but it’s not lawless. You don’t hear me saying Trump’s tariffs are lawless. Stupid … yes. Lawless … no.

Even terrible interpretations of the law (Biden border policy) are not lawless. I think the immediate deportations were awfully weak under the law, but Trump used the color of a law from 1798 (true) to support his position. That position will probably lose in the courts but until the court said stop, his behavior wasn’t lawless.

Now that he’s defying the courts, it’s lawless. One upping Joe’s bad behavior is not a win for anyone who is prospering under our system, and you definitely are.
Here we go TDS 2.0 They can't help themselves.....be kind to them.

....."it's lawless "....
 
I am not sure that I believe in the myth of free trade. Even at zero tariff worldwide, there appears to be other manipulations.

The El Salvador president seems to believe their citizen is a terrorist after interrogating him. To be a US terrorist, he would have to be in a gang labelled as a terrorist organization in the US. I am not sure how our judiciary ordered our Executive Branch to bust a foreign national out of a prison in his home country. You law types can sort that out, but it is quite funny the Maryland Senator was there to make news as the DOJ happens to release the illegals records of abusing his wife. The senator assured us his fellow senators would be traveling over there in protest also. I am guessing he is totally wrong. This is not the win for the left some of you think it is.

Very few on the left appear to have realized they drifted too far to the left. They seem to have talked themselves into some other explanations as to why Trump won. All of them are pretty nutty. Welcome to the party of AOC! Shapiro should be the guy, but the far left now controls that party until they legitimately accept their mistakes.
Shapiro…Jewish. If they keep the nonsense going on sucking up to a group of people no middle eastern country wants to take in, he won’t be the candidate. I am amazed at the number of Jewish people, who are so far left, they can’t see how anti-Jewish their party has become.
 
I don't remember them being a problem, but there were a ton of crab on the beach.
Crabs used to head from the mangrove swamps thru my yard for breeding areas on the beaches at Jupiter Island. My screen covered pool was in their way ! One morning we woke to over 100 crabs drowned in the pool that had cut thru the screens with their claws.

On North Beach Rd, as they crossed you would hear the noise as your tires would crush them by the hundreds.
 
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Crabs used to head from the mangrove swamps thru my yard for breeding areas on the beaches at Jupiter Island. My screen covered pool was in their way ! One morning we woke to over 100 crabs drowned in the pool that had cut thru the screens with their claws.

On North Beach Rd, as they crossed you would hear the noise as your tires would crush them by the hundreds.
The Brits running Diego didn't want them killed either.

I think DG will be all US before Trump is done.
 
Shapiro…Jewish. If they keep the nonsense going on sucking up to a group of people no middle eastern country wants to take in, he won’t be the candidate. I am amazed at the number of Jewish people, who are so far left, they can’t see how anti-Jewish their party has become.
The Jewish side of my family have moved so far from the Dems, that they have all cancelled their subscriptions to The New York Times !

EVEN the Sunday edition !
 
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At various ages I thought each one was the greatest. I saw them all live in the 1970's(not the Beatles obviously) and the best live band by far was The Who. They were a live Rock and Roll band ALL of their songs sounded better live than on vinyl, the light show and the performance was perfect. Stones on the other hand sucked live. Not one song live sounded as good live as in the studio. Zeppelin was pretty damn good, some better live than on vinyl, good but not as perfect as The Who.

The Who, Rush, AC/DC, Pink Floyd, and the Allman Brothers were the best live bands, IMHO.
 
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The Who, Rush, AC/DC, Pink Floyd, and the Allman Brothers were the best live bands, IMHO.
Still remember seeing Pink Floyd with something like 90,000 of my closest friends at Soldier Field. No doubt one of the very best concerts I ever saw.
 
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The ends justify the means. Trump keeps trampling on the rule of law. This country will likely face a constitutional crisis if Trump keeps this up.
Keep up !

That was last weeks Dem talking point !

This week it was Get Smarts "chaos" !

I'm blaming Trump on us spending 3 hours at the DMV for 2 items !
 
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So you think he wrote the checks out of personal accounts, and hid records in his basement? LOL
I thought from his "Vanity Fair" mag cover (Is that the Mag, We only get "Chicken" mag here W of WP.)
That he conducted most of his business pool side ?
 
Still remember seeing Pink Floyd with something like 90,000 of my closest friends at Soldier Field. No doubt one of the very best concerts I ever saw.
Hearing The Doors was very loud, I don't recall the songs, just the funny smell ?
 
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Was there something incorrect in what I posted? No. You may disagree with the Supreme Court, but it doesn’t matter does it.



Just can’t help yourself. Don’t blame me when the thread disappears and your precious likes are gone.



Biden has nothing to do with how Trump and Fauci handled the pandemic in 2020. That’s what was being discussed.
Tell that to the 8,500 Active Duty Servicemen fired by Joey as they refused The Jab, as mandated by Joey.
 
Tell that to the 8,500 Active Duty Servicemen fired by Joey as they refused The Jab, as mandated by Joey.
You’ve completely changed the subject now. What does this have to do with Trump’s handling of Fauci?

You’re incapable of having an actual discussion.
 
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John's buddy at USNA who flunked out of Aviation and was sent to Subs as the Supply Officer used to stay at Hawaii or Australia when not submerged.

Cruise ships that arrived at either place were "targets of opportunity" for their younger tourists !

Never made DG as a port.
I was only there a short time, but it was some great duty. Lots of softball, volleyball, fishing and beaches. They get a lot of TAD depending on what is going on in the world.

Those permanently stationed there called it "the rock". I was quick to point out there are plenty of worse assignments.

Beautiful island.
 
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One of my first concerts is still one of my favorites. 16 years old, Assembly Hall - Foo Fighters and Red Hot Chili Peppers. I went with my brother and his fraternity brothers. What a show!
 
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The left isn't fighting for gang members it is fighting for due process and the rule of law. I don't believe this would have gotten much traction except for the fact that one individual was mistakenly deported and the Trump administration has no intention of correcting the error. Trump is thumbing his nose at the courts. Last night, a very conservative judge blasted Trump for his handling of this case. Trump had that ridiculous dog and pony show with the leader of El Salvador. Nobody believes that if Trump wanted that individual back he would not be returned.
The question becomes: why not fix the error? If he is a criminal, bring him back and then deport him again. This issue would go away. My guess is that Trump is afraid that he will be allowed to stay in the country. Joe Rogan is already questioning the deportation of certain individuals. This case has become very problematic and it will not go away until it is resolved. In the long run letting this case fester, will cause more political damage than its resolution.

My favorite concerts: Kinks, AC/DC, Nirvana and Judas Priest.
Why not just fix the error?

That would require admission of an error.
 
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Why don’t you admit it was an error for him to be in the country illegally in the first place? Now we’re supposed to allow that error all over again?
In 2019, a U.S. immigration judge granted him "withholding of removal" status, a form of protection that allowed him to live and work legally in the U.S. due to the danger he faced from gangs if returned to El Salvador. This status did not grant him permanent residency or a path to citizenship, but it prohibited his deportation to El Salvador. Therefore, while he initially entered the U.S. illegally, at the time of his deportation in March 2025, he was legally residing in the U.S. under this protected status.


Due process is important. Be careful what you wish for. Trump won’t be in power indefinitely.
 
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In 2019, a U.S. immigration judge granted him "withholding of removal" status, a form of protection that allowed him to live and work legally in the U.S. due to the danger he faced from gangs if returned to El Salvador. This status did not grant him permanent residency or a path to citizenship, but it prohibited his deportation to El Salvador. Therefore, while he initially entered the U.S. illegally, at the time of his deportation in March 2025, he was legally residing in the U.S. under this protected status.


Due process is important. Be careful what you wish for. Trump won’t be in power indefinitely.
A gang member who has to be in the US illegally so he can be protected from gangs? Maybe that Salvadoran prison is the safest place for him after all.
 
A gang member who has to be in the US illegally so he can be protected from gangs? Maybe that Salvadoran prison is the safest place for him after all.

Gang member? Evidence is not that strong but give him due process and it will all be over.

 
It seems likely he was a former gang member. Former gang members are probably #1 on the list of people who need protection from gangs.

Shouldn’t have sent him to an El Salvadoran prison. I don’t really think we should be sending anyone there. We don’t know how they treat their prisoners.

He also doesn’t seem like the ideal martyr. Not a great history (domestic abuse allegations) and he came here illegally.

Oh well, great distraction this week.
 
A gang member who has to be in the US illegally so he can be protected from gangs? Maybe that Salvadoran prison is the safest place for him after all.
Maybe you’re right. There’s processes in place to handle this situation correctly.

I think the Trump administration’s strong stance on illegal immigration is fine. Just do it the right way. It’s pretty simple.
 
It seems likely he was a former gang member. Former gang members are probably #1 on the list of people who need protection from gangs.

Shouldn’t have sent him to an El Salvadoran prison. I don’t really think we should be sending anyone there. We don’t know how they treat their prisoners.

He also doesn’t seem like the ideal martyr. Not a great history (domestic abuse allegations) and he came here illegally.

Oh well, great distraction this week.

Agree with everything you have said. This would have been long forgotten if they would have brought him back and just processed him correctly and sent him to another country.

From what I have seen that prison in El Salvador is really a bad place.
 
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Best concert I saw was ZZ Top on the Recycler tour. Incredible generations of music. I was there for the opening act that sucked, thought I liked about 3 Tops songs from the 70’s and was absolutely blown away.

BTW, I personally don’t care for rock bands that perform every one of their recorded songs, the exact same live in concert. If I want to listen to the album, I can stay home and save the money.
 
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Agree with everything you have said. This would have been long forgotten if they would have brought him back and just processed him correctly and sent him to another country.

From what I have seen that prison in El Salvador is really a bad place.
The liberal media likes to complain about how Trump strong-arms other governments. Isn’t that what they’re asking him to do with El Salvador?
 
It's funny how the deranged insist on dying taking a hill to bring back a wife-beating, gang-banging, loser who was in the US illegally already. ZERO REDEEMING QUALITIES.

But, hey, that Maryland Senator spent a good week drinking margaritas with this wife beater to prove he cares. DUMB, DUMB, DUMB.

And who wants this guy back? The one-time Reagan conservative, the lawyer who just can't quit this board despite constantly quitting, and the 'new' poster who has resurrected himself more times than our Lord and Savior.

56 percent of Americans per CNN want ALL illegals removed. American voters aren't going to vote Democrat over this gang-banger who was removed legally whether you like it or not.

Keeping fighting for Hamburger Hill. Just Stupid.

Happy Good Friday and Easter to all - even the deranged Leftists on this board!
 
The liberal media likes to complain about how Trump strong-arms other governments. Isn’t that what they’re asking him to do with El Salvador?
The US has contracted with El Salvador to house these deportees. It would be very reasonable to ask a contractor for a deportee back.
 
It's funny how the deranged insist on dying taking a hill to bring back a wife-beating, gang-banging, loser who was in the US illegally already. ZERO REDEEMING QUALITIES.

But, hey, that Maryland Senator spent a good week drinking margaritas with this wife beater to prove he cares. DUMB, DUMB, DUMB.

And who wants this guy back? The one-time Reagan conservative, the lawyer who just can't quit this board despite constantly quitting, and the 'new' poster who has resurrected himself more times than our Lord and Savior.

56 percent of Americans per CNN want ALL illegals removed. American voters aren't going to vote Democrat over this gang-banger who was removed legally whether you like it or not.

Keeping fighting for Hamburger Hill. Just Stupid.

Happy Good Friday and Easter to all - even the deranged Leftists on this board!
And to the crowd that says “if they can do it to them, they can do it to you”, where were these folks when multiple Republican Congressmen were refused entry into the DC Prison and checking on the well being of J6ers of which they have oversight?
 
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