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Wait, didn't the Trump Admin send an El Salvador criminal to an El Salvador prison? Didn't he enter the US illegally and beat his baby momma twice? He entered the US illegally?What part of any of this is inaccurate?

I think it is a good idea for you and your party to keep charging this hill. Really good!

The ends justify the means. Trump keeps trampling on the rule of law. This country will likely face a constitutional crisis if Trump keeps this up.
 
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I am in a group that has spent time in DG. This pic was posted for context today. Thought I would share for Big Will
Nice beaches, how are the insects ?
 
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One of the more amusing things about this thread is that there seems to be little recognition that the standard of Joe Biden doing unpopular things and performing poorly resulting in Dems losing millions of votes also applies to the following. Should Donald Trump also do unpopular things and perform poorly, Republicans will lose millions of votes. Being in the groups of people who would never vote for the "other party" shouldn't blind one to the reality that many people, if upset about the President, will do exactly that.

I have a good friend who voted for Trump. He is not MAGA, knows Trump's defects, and detests tariffs. I mentioned to him the other day that the likely outcome of even a temporarily bad economy would be a Dem trifecta in 2028. His response: "that's already assured."

I guess it will mean more Fox News fodder.
A HUGE $ Billionaire not anywhere a MAGA person has just stated that : Trumps ideas will give the US hundreds of billions of dollars !, Mark Cuban !
 
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The ends justify the means. Trump keeps trampling on the rule of law. This country will likely face a constitutional crisis if Trump keeps this up.
Like an open border?
Like bussing and flying illegal aliens all across our country?
Like allowing violent anti-Semitic protests on college campuses?
Like openly and publicly calling for and endorsing violence against political opponents?

You and your political allies are the biggest violators of constitutional law in the history of this country. I wouldn’t bring up “trampling on the rule of law” if I were you. Especially when defending a non-citizen who is a violent criminal gang member. Absolutely disgusting.
 
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“I have a good friend”, lol. Obviously, the secure border wasn’t a priority for him.

Once again, you miss the big picture. Can the next R candidate keep the Trump coalition and motivate the Trump voters to support him/her?

The Democrats have secured the illegal alien, gang banging, wife beating vote. No question.


Huh? My buddy thinks Trump has been excellent on the border. I suspect he will still vote for all or close to all Republicans in 2026 and 2028. He does dislike Vance so hard to know on that one.

He just understands politics. You can't promulgate problematic economic policy and antagonize the middle of the road voters and expect a good electoral outcome. Joe Biden proved that (so have a bunch of others).
 
I have stated on here(probably deleted) that he will get hurt in the midterms if the economy is a problem. To be fair, he could get hurt even if he didn't attempt to tackle a major problem. I am also on record here that I like the endgame goals, but not the executed strategy.

I would guess the GOP will do what the controlling party historically does, lose more than they win in the midterms.

I believe the GOP ground game and priorities are way better now than they were five years ago.

The other issue is the opponent. The left can't get out of their own way. The issues they are spending time on are not winning issues. The right will beat them to death with ads of them loving on wife beating gang-bangers. How does that sell in the suburbs with women?

The public is now aware of major cash being poured into wealthy, far left Harvard among other colleges. Is that a winner with the folks?

It seems like the number one polling issue in 2024 was the border. Trump has more than delivered on an issue we were told here we needed a huge spending bill through congress to fix. Not true. Again, this was the number one voting issue.

The US economy is a humongous voting issue. That includes cost of goods. That seems to be dropping. If that continues to drop and the market rebounds nicely by next spring, the GOP is in as good of a position as a controlling party can be.

For the most part, I think the Trump Administration is directionally correct. You and I disagree on tariffs because I don't think Trump gives a whit about actual free trade and really does like tariffs, like he's told us thousands of times. Some of his Admin thinks they can push the tariffs towards more free trade, we'll see.

In terms of how to handle things, heavy-handed on the border seems to be working great. It seems less awesome that they won't just pull one guy out of PRISON in El Salvador tho, a guy convicted of nothing. Heavy-handed with DOGE is a mixed bag. Heavy-handed with law firms seems clearly retributive and deeply disturbing, as I'm not sure what laws they are violating beyond "associating with Trump's enemies." Heavy handed with university funding is fine in theory (I love the emphasis on merit), but more questionable in practice. The university funding is huge, and some of it is surely questionable (but most of the money is actually going to university-affiliated hospitals, likely as HC reimbursement, seems like Trump should carve that out).

That said, doing everything heavy handed is going to alienate people. Doing it some of the time looks strong. Doing it every time looks abusive and cruel. Bad politics.

Dems might nominate AOC. Vance can beat AOC (my buddy thinks they nominate AOC and she wins lol, he's not excited about it). I think they nominate Shapiro, and it's going to be an easy win for him over Vance. We'll see. If Dems maintain that progressivism is their calling card, they'll mostly lose except when Rs really piss people off. No one will ever know if that's what they are doing watching right wing media, tho.
 
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Huh? My buddy thinks Trump has been excellent on the border. I suspect he will still vote for all or close to all Republicans in 2026 and 2028. He does dislike Vance so hard to know on that one.

He just understands politics. You can't promulgate problematic economic policy and antagonize the middle of the road voters and expect a good electoral outcome. Joe Biden proved that (so have a bunch of others).

It's anecdotal. Do you honestly see your buddy voting for Kamala/Bernie/AOC/Whitmer/ETC over Vance?

He can LOVE the border all he wants, but it will be wide open with all of the above.

As for the tariff policy, as I have said, time will tell. If your friend is for free and fair trade, then a largely worldwide reset is in order and it was never going to be pretty. To facilitate the necessary rapid change which the US political calendar forces, it was never going to be pretty.

As I posted, almost no Trump voters regret their vote. A loss of 2 percent is easily made up for those on the D side who now like Trump's policies. The key for Rs is getting the Trump-only voters to vote R in 2028.
 
It's anecdotal. Do you honestly see your buddy voting for Kamala/Bernie/AOC/Whitmer/ETC over Vance?

He can LOVE the border all he wants, but it will be wide open with all of the above.

As for the tariff policy, as I have said, time will tell. If your friend is for free and fair trade, then a largely worldwide reset is in order and it was never going to be pretty. To facilitate the necessary rapid change which the US political calendar forces, it was never going to be pretty.

As I posted, almost no Trump voters regret their vote. A loss of 2 percent is easily made up for those on the D side who now like Trump's policies. The key for Rs is getting the Trump-only voters to vote R in 2028.

Trump's net approval is down like 14% since Inauguration. You can think the polls are wrong, sure, but they had him with his best ratings ever at Inauguration. (By the way, net approval is the spread, so it indicates more like a 7% switch.)

I'm sure my buddy would vote for Vance over AOC. I'd vote for neither. Plus one there for Vance.
 
Trump's net approval is down like 14% since Inauguration. You can think the polls are wrong, sure, but they had him with his best ratings ever at Inauguration. (By the way, net approval is the spread, so it indicates more like a 7% switch.)

I'm sure my buddy would vote for Vance over AOC. I'd vote for neither. Plus one there for Vance.
Check with the poll guy that was let go at MSNBC for giving Trump glowing polls !

Hint; It wasn't a Rasmussen guy !
 
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He was a scientist, not the President. He didn't have the power to do anything.

We had this discussion here during the pandemic. I warned then of the danger of turning over decision-making power to unelected public health “experts” rather officials who are accountable to the people.

Failing to understand this was one of the major failures of the first Trump administration and many of the governors around the country. They don’t understand how leadership works or how government is supposed to function. They absolutely did empower Fauci.

It’s not that experts necessarily have bad intentions. It’s that they are single issue people with tunnel vision. Fauci and Deborah Birx had no clue what the economic impact and devastating social consequences would be of their Draconian, oppressive mitigation measures.

(If JFK had listened to Curtis LeMay during the Cuban missle crisis he likely would have thrust us into a nuclear conflict with the Soviet Union)
 
For the most part, I think the Trump Administration is directionally correct. You and I disagree on tariffs because I don't think Trump gives a whit about actual free trade and really does like tariffs, like he's told us thousands of times. Some of his Admin thinks they can push the tariffs towards more free trade, we'll see.

In terms of how to handle things, heavy-handed on the border seems to be working great. It seems less awesome that they won't just pull one guy out of PRISON in El Salvador tho, a guy convicted of nothing. Heavy-handed with DOGE is a mixed bag. Heavy-handed with law firms seems clearly retributive and deeply disturbing, as I'm not sure what laws they are violating beyond "associating with Trump's enemies." Heavy handed with university funding is fine in theory (I love the emphasis on merit), but more questionable in practice. The university funding is huge, and some of it is surely questionable (but most of the money is actually going to university-affiliated hospitals, likely as HC reimbursement, seems like Trump should carve that out).

That said, doing everything heavy handed is going to alienate people. Doing it some of the time looks strong. Doing it every time looks abusive and cruel. Bad politics.

Dems might nominate AOC. Vance can beat AOC (my buddy thinks they nominate AOC and she wins lol, he's not excited about it). I think they nominate Shapiro, and it's going to be an easy win for him over Vance. We'll see. If Dems maintain that progressivism is their calling card, they'll mostly lose except when Rs really piss people off. No one will ever know if that's what they are doing watching right wing media, tho.
I am not sure that I believe in the myth of free trade. Even at zero tariff worldwide, there appears to be other manipulations.

The El Salvador president seems to believe their citizen is a terrorist after interrogating him. To be a US terrorist, he would have to be in a gang labelled as a terrorist organization in the US. I am not sure how our judiciary ordered our Executive Branch to bust a foreign national out of a prison in his home country. You law types can sort that out, but it is quite funny the Maryland Senator was there to make news as the DOJ happens to release the illegals records of abusing his wife. The senator assured us his fellow senators would be traveling over there in protest also. I am guessing he is totally wrong. This is not the win for the left some of you think it is.

Very few on the left appear to have realized they drifted too far to the left. They seem to have talked themselves into some other explanations as to why Trump won. All of them are pretty nutty. Welcome to the party of AOC! Shapiro should be the guy, but the far left now controls that party until they legitimately accept their mistakes.
 
Greatest band?

A. The Beatles
B. The Rolling Stones
C. Led Zeppelin
At various ages I thought each one was the greatest. I saw them all live in the 1970's(not the Beatles obviously) and the best live band by far was The Who. They were a live Rock and Roll band ALL of their songs sounded better live than on vinyl, the light show and the performance was perfect. Stones on the other hand sucked live. Not one song live sounded as good live as in the studio. Zeppelin was pretty damn good, some better live than on vinyl, good but not as perfect as The Who.
 
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You might want to be (a) a bit more concerned about similar rule of law violations that Dems could engage in when they get back in (won’t be long) and (b) a little less certain that someone charged with no crimes whatsoever is terrorizing America left and right.

From what I can tell, there’s one finding of gang affiliation in a court that’s not exactly held to the standard you and I would get if tried for a criminal violation. It is based on limited evidence as well (a CI). The same court said he should be deported but not to ES.

The Trump Admin probably didn’t realize the earlier order prevented them from the ES deportation. Likely an honest mistake. So instead of rectifying it and, say, deporting him elsewhere, they double down on someone convicted of nothing getting tortured in a Salvadoran prison.

Here’s the deal, if the guy gets killed or something, Rs will pay a political price. For what exactly? He didn’t murder an American or commit some other heinous crime. They could send him to Venezuela or Honduras tomorrow if they wanted, they have the leverage. They won’t because they think this makes them look strong, but it’s a perilous road.
 
A federal judge and the Supreme Court disagree with you. A U.S. District Judge ruled that he was denied due process he was entitled to, and the Supreme Court partially upheld this, acknowledging procedural flaws in his deportation.
Again reading is fundamental ...
 
Where do community guidelines discuss multiple accounts/monikers? You specifically created one that called me a douche. You appear to be like a policeman who turns his siren and lights on to speed on his way to get some coffee and donuts. And don’t tell us you are a different person. The posts all have the same DNA.
We had a Trooper that was using his lights & siren to get back to the barracks to get off shift on the dot !

A newspaper man followed him thinking he get a scoop story !

When he followed the Trooper to the parking lot he was po'ed !

Reported it to IA and the Trooper got a 2 week, no pay vacation !
 
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You might want to be (a) a bit more concerned about similar rule of law violations that Dems could engage in when they get back in (won’t be long) and (b) a little less certain that someone charged with no crimes whatsoever is terrorizing America left and right.

From what I can tell, there’s one finding of gang affiliation in a court that’s not exactly held to the standard you and I would get if tried for a criminal violation. It is based on limited evidence as well (a CI). The same court said he should be deported but not to ES.

The Trump Admin probably didn’t realize the earlier order prevented them from the ES deportation. Likely an honest mistake. So instead of rectifying it and, say, deporting him elsewhere, they double down on someone convicted of nothing getting tortured in a Salvadoran prison.

Here’s the deal, if the guy gets killed or something, Rs will pay a political price. For what exactly? He didn’t murder an American or commit some other heinous crime. They could send him to Venezuela or Honduras tomorrow if they wanted, they have the leverage. They won’t because they think this makes them look strong, but it’s a perilous road.
Is this the rule of law the Dems followed when they opened our borders, used tax payer funds to fly in illegals, feed them and house them. Remember when they chased Biden's opponent with the legal system trying to incarcerate and bankrupt him? Remember when the left gave failed gubernatorial candidate Stacy Abrahams and her new NGO 2 billion in taxpayer dollars? I liked it as we watched a crackhead Dem president's son not pay taxes or rake millions overseas in influence peddling. The left was coming for Elon next and that is why he helped pushed Trump into the WH. I could go on and on.

The dems do not respect US law. That is pure fantasy, amigo. It has nothing to do with Trump.
 
One of the more amusing things about this thread is that there seems to be little recognition that the standard of Joe Biden doing unpopular things and performing poorly resulting in Dems losing millions of votes also applies to the following. Should Donald Trump also do unpopular things and perform poorly, Republicans will lose millions of votes. Being in the groups of people who would never vote for the "other party" shouldn't blind one to the reality that many people, if upset about the President, will do exactly that.

I have a good friend who voted for Trump. He is not MAGA, knows Trump's defects, and detests tariffs. I mentioned to him the other day that the likely outcome of even a temporarily bad economy would be a Dem trifecta in 2028. His response: "that's already assured."

I guess it will mean more Fox News fodder.
Where did Joey's 10,000,000 votes disappear to ?
 
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Almost everyone I know voted for Trump, and we can debate his pros and cons without descending into name-calling or rage.

This forum is my main exposure to die-hard MAGA supporters, and their intensity is something else. It’s fascinating and ironically it closely mirrors what you see from the woke left.

Hopefully we get a real leader in 2028 that can pull us out of this cycle.
JD
 
Is this the rule of law the Dems followed when they opened our borders, used tax payer funds to fly in illegals, feed them and house them. Remember when they chased Biden's opponent with the legal system trying to incarcerate and bankrupt him? Remember when the left gave failed gubernatorial candidate Stacy Abrahams and her new NGO 2 billion in taxpayer dollars? I liked it as we watched a crackhead Dem president's son not pay taxes or rake millions overseas in influence peddling. The left was coming for Elon next and that is why he helped pushed Trump into the WH. I could go on and on.

The dems do not respect US law. That is pure fantasy, amigo. It has nothing to do with Trump.
Correct. Bush was illegitimate (2000 election dangling chads), etc. The “it’s only a Trump thing” with the Democrats is selective memory for the anti-Trump “independent” crowd.
 
People started questioning Fauci almost immediately. The mask issue you referenced earlier happened in late Feb 2020. Trump himself retweeted a #firefauci post in April 2020. Instead, he continued to trot him out there in clown show press conferences all summer.

Both Trump and Fauci failed us.
AND Joey AND scarf lady !
 

Trump is such a dope. If he fired Powell, financial markets would destabilize and interest rates would rise. Secretary of Treasury told him it would be a bad idea. Sounds like he is one of the few adults in the room.
OR Financial markets would stabilize and interest rates would drop....
 
Is this the rule of law the Dems followed when they opened our borders, used tax payer funds to fly in illegals, feed them and house them. Remember when they chased Biden's opponent with the legal system trying to incarcerate and bankrupt him? Remember when the left gave failed gubernatorial candidate Stacy Abrahams and her new NGO 2 billion in taxpayer dollars. I liked it as we watched a crackhead Dem president's son not pay taxes or rake millions overseas in influence peddling. The left was coming for Elon Next and that is why he helped pushed Trump into the WH. I could go on and on.

The dems do not respect US law. That is pure fantasy, amigo. It has nothing to do with Trump.

Huh? Partisan gobbledygook is not actual argument, no matter how exciting on Newsmax.

There are times Dems are lawless (Biden vaccine mandates), but when the court determines it, the mandates disappeared. Weirdly, I oppose all lawless behavior by both teams, from the start.

Bad policy is not lawlessness. It sucks, but it’s not lawless. You don’t hear me saying Trump’s tariffs are lawless. Stupid … yes. Lawless … no.

Even terrible interpretations of the law (Biden border policy) are not lawless. I think the immediate deportations were awfully weak under the law, but Trump used the color of a law from 1798 (true) to support his position. That position will probably lose in the courts but until the court said stop, his behavior wasn’t lawless.

Now that he’s defying the courts, it’s lawless. One upping Joe’s bad behavior is not a win for anyone who is prospering under our system, and you definitely are.
 
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For the most part, I think the Trump Administration is directionally correct. You and I disagree on tariffs because I don't think Trump gives a whit about actual free trade and really does like tariffs, like he's told us thousands of times. Some of his Admin thinks they can push the tariffs towards more free trade, we'll see.

In terms of how to handle things, heavy-handed on the border seems to be working great. It seems less awesome that they won't just pull one guy out of PRISON in El Salvador tho, a guy convicted of nothing. Heavy-handed with DOGE is a mixed bag. Heavy-handed with law firms seems clearly retributive and deeply disturbing, as I'm not sure what laws they are violating beyond "associating with Trump's enemies." Heavy handed with university funding is fine in theory (I love the emphasis on merit), but more questionable in practice. The university funding is huge, and some of it is surely questionable (but most of the money is actually going to university-affiliated hospitals, likely as HC reimbursement, seems like Trump should carve that out).

That said, doing everything heavy handed is going to alienate people. Doing it some of the time looks strong. Doing it every time looks abusive and cruel. Bad politics.

Dems might nominate AOC. Vance can beat AOC (my buddy thinks they nominate AOC and she wins lol, he's not excited about it). I think they nominate Shapiro, and it's going to be an easy win for him over Vance. We'll see. If Dems maintain that progressivism is their calling card, they'll mostly lose except when Rs really piss people off. No one will ever know if that's what they are doing watching right wing media, tho.
You advertise here as an Attorney ?

Yet you post as if you have no knowledge how illegal immigrants are handled legally.
 
Again reading is fundamental ...

Was there something incorrect in what I posted? No. You may disagree with the Supreme Court, but it doesn’t matter does it.


Just can’t help yourself. Don’t blame me when the thread disappears and your precious likes are gone.

AND Joey AND scarf lady !

Biden has nothing to do with how Trump and Fauci handled the pandemic in 2020. That’s what was being discussed.
 
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