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[flight 33]

I find it odd that you have such animosity towards American politicians that take a more aggressive interventionist posture. There's ideological reasons (and benefits to the USA) they take these views. You disagree with those views, as is your right. No one is "good" or "evil" for these positions.

I actually like both Rand Paul and Tom Cotton, more than I currently like the average R. Because both are more willing to stick to their own beliefs than cave to Trump. And I know they are very different on international relations, but in our system we have "big tent" parties so this happens.

Quite frankly , other than having differences in ideology, I feel those people genuinely don’t have the best interests of Americans. It should be clear I don’t support all things Trump who I do believe has our best interests whether you agree with him or not. I would say the same thing about kooky Bernie sanders but wouldn’t do so about Lindsay Graham

 

[tjfleck6]

Here's the actual RCP polling average. It's a right of center website.

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And totally worthless when they include obviously wrong polls like the "100-day" polls which were created to produce a narrative - which you gladly glommed on to.

Those 100-day polls gave Trump poor marks on the issue of "Immigration".

 

[flight 33]

That might be because Trump isn’t an Israeli.

Yes but there are American politicians on the right pushing for this. You could probably guess who they are …

 

[bung23]

Oh really? US troops are being deployed in Iran? Pinocchio says hi

 

[dtrain79]

Quite frankly , other than having differences in ideology, I feel those people genuinely don’t have the best interests of Americans. It should be clear I don’t support all things Trump who I do believe has our best interests whether you agree with him or not. I would say the same thing about kooky Bernie sanders but wouldn’t do so about Lindsay Graham

So, to be clear, their ideology makes them evil. This is just something I can't wrap my mind around.

 

[dtrain79]

And totally worthless when they include obviously wrong polls like the "100-day" polls which were created to produce a narrative - which you gladly glommed on to.

Those 100-day polls gave Trump poor marks on the issue of "Immigration".

Trump's polling collapsed for about six weeks after "Liberation Day." It just happened the 100 day mark fell right in the middle of that.

Blame Liberation Day. Thank the bond markets and courts for taming it.

 

[flight 33]

So Ted Cruz is now referring to the Bible (wrongly imo)to determine foreign policy?

 

[flight 33]

So, to be clear, their ideology makes them evil. This is just something I can't wrap my mind around.

The people I quoted just don’t care about human life as long as it doesn’t align with their ideology. Cotton maybe a stretch but Graham and Randy fine are just heartless people…also, they don’t have the best interests of Americans…

 

[dtrain79]

The people I quoted just don’t care about human life as long as it doesn’t align with their ideology. Cotton maybe a stretch but Graham and Randy fine are just heartless people…

You've convinced yourself of something I couldn't do unless the person was out there recklessly offing others. They disagree with your view of American use of force, we have elections to sort it out!

 

[tjfleck6]

Trump's polling collapsed for about six weeks after "Liberation Day." It just happened the 100 day mark fell right in the middle of that.

Blame Liberation Day. Thank the bond markets and courts for taming it.

Sucker. Yes, Trump in those polls was negative on the issue of immigration. LOLx50. You can believe whatever you choose, but any poll that had him negative on immigration was worthless. The Dems and media sure wouldn't go all out to destroy Trump at the 100-day mark with fake polls.

 

[dtrain79]

Sucker. Yes, Trump in those polls was negative on the issue of immigration. LOLx50. You can believe whatever you choose, but any poll that had him negative on immigration was worthless. The Dems and media sure wouldn't go all out to destroy Trump at the 100-day mark with fake polls.

I'm pretty sure only Trump fans think the media believes it can destroy Trump with polling at this point.

It's OK, Trump has been controversial. He's probably 3-6 points underwater in approval, which is great for him historically. If he stays in this range, the GOP will probably have a decent midterm, only losing the House and not by a huge amount.

The majority of Americans clearly agree with Trump on immigration, but they don't always agree with his execution. The Abrego Garcia mess hurt Trump on the execution end, because lo and behold Americans like due process. And I'm sure most are fine with him being brought back under the ruse of "criminal charges." Everyone with a brain should be good with him being deported in the future, just not in violation of a court order to a foreign prison.

 

[BigWill]

Gonna take at least 2 of those massive bunker busters. One to penetrate, another to get deeper into the ground yet. I would guess it would be us who have to deliver those particular weapons. The biggest exporter of terrorism cannot have nukes. 75/25.

There are 2 types of 30,000 bombs, one above ground explosion, one ground/cement penetration delay fuse , both GPU.

Only the USA has the planes that can deliver 30,000 pounds, The B-2 can carry 3 (90,000 pounds), all with GPU AND delay fusing.
So that they hit the same hole/each detonates a milli second later for maximum penetration !
1,200 feet of dirt, or 600 of dirt AND 120 feet of concrete.

DG has 7 B-2 on their runway, unknown 30,000 pounders.

B-2 are stealth, show a golf ball radar return at 35,000 feet. Bombs internal bomb bays. Legs to anywhere in Iran, refuel somewhere back to DG OR USA.

 

[BigWill]

Gonna take at least 2 of those massive bunker busters. One to penetrate, another to get deeper into the ground yet. I would guess it would be us who have to deliver those particular weapons. The biggest exporter of terrorism cannot have nukes. 75/25.

99.99/00.01.

The World including USA / against Hamas at Ivy League Schools.

 

[BigWill]

Sucker. Yes, Trump in those polls was negative on the issue of immigration. LOLx50. You can believe whatever you choose, but any poll that had him negative on immigration was worthless. The Dems and media sure wouldn't go all out to destroy Trump at the 100-day mark with fake polls.

As I have continually stated EVERY poll, including St. Rasmussen, is not to relied on, to gauge anything happening in the World or USA.

 

[John Kay]

So Ted Cruz is now referring to the Bible (wrongly imo)to determine foreign policy?

And if you disagree you’re an anti-semite

 

[tjfleck6]

I'm pretty sure only Trump fans think the media believes it can destroy Trump with polling at this point.

It's OK, Trump has been controversial. He's probably 3-6 points underwater in approval, which is great for him historically. If he stays in this range, the GOP will probably have a decent midterm, only losing the House and not by a huge amount.

The majority of Americans clearly agree with Trump on immigration, but they don't always agree with his execution. The Abrego Garcia mess hurt Trump on the execution end, because lo and behold Americans like due process. And I'm sure most are fine with him being brought back under the ruse of "criminal charges." Everyone with a brain should be good with him being deported in the future, just not in violation of a court order to a foreign prison.

So, you believe the media doesn't believe it can harm Trump with polling? So, why are they doing it?

As for the Maryland man, only diehard liberals wanted to keep that trashy individual in the USA. Once again, Trump was right to get rid of that guy. After allowing the liberals to slobber all over him, the wife-beating data, human trafficking stops, etc., were all conveniently released.

"Due process" has always been silly with respect to illegals. As a lawyer, I understand you make a ton of $$$ pushing due process, period. But, regular people are sick of these people having more rights than actual Americans.

 

[ILisBest]

There are 2 types of 30,000 bombs, one above ground explosion, one ground/cement penetration delay fuse , both GPU.

Only the USA has the planes that can deliver 30,000 pounds, The B-2 can carry 3 (90,000 pounds), all with GPU AND delay fusing.
So that they hit the same hole/each detonates a milli second later for maximum penetration !
1,200 feet of dirt, or 600 of dirt AND 120 feet of concrete.

DG has 7 B-2 on their runway, unknown 30,000 pounders.

B-2 are stealth, show a golf ball radar return at 35,000 feet. Bombs internal bomb bays. Legs to anywhere in Iran, refuel somewhere back to DG OR USA.

Probably a DG mission.

 

[Uncoach]

Yes but there are American politicians on the right pushing for this. You could probably guess who they are …

I can, but when have they controlled Trump?

 

[Uncoach]

There are 2 types of 30,000 bombs, one above ground explosion, one ground/cement penetration delay fuse , both GPU.

Only the USA has the planes that can deliver 30,000 pounds, The B-2 can carry 3 (90,000 pounds), all with GPU AND delay fusing.
So that they hit the same hole/each detonates a milli second later for maximum penetration !
1,200 feet of dirt, or 600 of dirt AND 120 feet of concrete.

DG has 7 B-2 on their runway, unknown 30,000 pounders.

B-2 are stealth, show a golf ball radar return at 35,000 feet. Bombs internal bomb bays. Legs to anywhere in Iran, refuel somewhere back to DG OR USA.

They have to get 300 feet beneath the surface, according to what I've read.

 

[Uncoach]

And totally worthless when they include obviously wrong polls like the "100-day" polls which were created to produce a narrative - which you gladly glommed on to.

Those 100-day polls gave Trump poor marks on the issue of "Immigration".

And we've discussed this before. The aggregate polling data is BS. Best polling data uses "likely voters". The poll I posted today was "likely voters". 381 Republicans, 377 Democrats, 242 Independents. 3.09% MOE.

 

[Uncoach]

Probably a DG mission.

I haven't heard of the B-2's being in DG. They've moved so many refuelers into Europe. It's a 30 hour round trip from USA.

 

[tjfleck6]

I haven't heard of the B-2's being in DG. They've moved so many refuelers into Europe. It's a 30 hour round trip from USA.

Might be outside of Wichita. Maybe

 

[tjfleck6]

The man/woman with 5 user ids and counting would be wise to read this. Of course, that means he/she won’t.

 

[flight 33]

I can, but when have they controlled Trump?

No doubt but Miriam adelson poured in 230million dollars into his campaign. I also find it at least somewhat odd that he has sided with neocons like Lindsay graham while admonishing people like Massie who have sided with him when he was persecuted. I guarantee you the neocon establishment led by Mitch McConnell doesn’t like trump

 

[BigWill]

Might be outside of Wichita. Maybe

There are satellite pictures on line with 7 B - 2's on the parking areas off the active runways at DG !
They have been there for about 1 month.

Along with other assets like transports and air refueling planes.

I have spent most of this afternoon reading up on US air assets ! I was a little off with the specs on individual platforms.
1. B-2 bombers are stealth, but can carry only 2 30,000 Bunker Buster in internal rotary dispensers, up to 50,000 feet high. NOT 3 !
2. B- 1 AND B-52 both have carrying capability above 70,000 pounds, but not rated the single 30,000 BB. (At least publicly.)
3. B-2 fully loaded can fly over 6,000 nautical miles, over 10,000 nautical miles with 1 refueling.

There is NO Iranian Air Force, every runway and taxi way have been bomb cratered, so their assets couldn't get airborne. Now they are being destroyed on the ground, no matter their age or airworthiness. This includes choppers !

 

[tjfleck6]

W

There are satellite pictures on line with 7 B - 2's on the parking areas off the active runways at DG !
They have been there for about 1 month.

Along with other assets like transports and air refueling planes.

I have spent most of this afternoon reading up on US air assets ! I was a little off with the specs on individual platforms.
1. B-2 bombers are stealth, but can carry only 2 30,000 Bunker Buster in internal rotary dispensers, up to 50,000 feet high. NOT 3 !
2. B- 1 AND B-52 both have carrying capability above 70,000 pounds, but not rated the single 30,000 BB. (At least publicly.)
3. B-2 fully loaded can fly over 6,000 nautical miles, over 10,000 nautical miles with 1 refueling.

There is NO Iraqi Air Force, every runway and taxi way have been bomb cratered, so their assets couldn't get airborne. Now they are being destroyed on the ground, no matter their age or airworthiness. This includes choppers !

When I was in Wichita for work many moons ago, the B1-B was based out of McConnell. I'd see it flying over while playing tennis. The good old days!

Looks like they have refueler aircraft these days!

 

[Uncoach]

No doubt but Miriam adelson poured in 230million dollars into his campaign. I also find it at least somewhat odd that he has sided with neocons like Lindsay graham while admonishing people like Massie who have sided with him when he was persecuted. I guarantee you the neocon establishment led by Mitch McConnell doesn’t like trump

Massie had voted against Trump on some issues. Life isn’t black and white. It’s gray. If I’m Trump, I need Graham to get some things done in the Senate. I don’t have to do what he says. Trump is worth a lot more money than Adelson threw in. Frankly, Trump owes more to Musk than he does anyone else, if we are going that route.

Years ago Bono took a bunch of crap from the Left for getting chummy with W. Bono understood that Bush could help him with his mission in Africa, because they shared values.

 

[John Kay]

man/woman

he/she

Little man syndrome

 

[John Kay]

 

[John Kay]

 

[tjfleck6]

Little man syndrome

 

[tjfleck6]

 

[BigWill]

You've convinced yourself of something I couldn't do unless the person was out there recklessly offing others. They disagree with your view of American use of force, we have elections to sort it out!

We HAD elections to sort it out !

 

[BigWill]

Trump's polling collapsed for about six weeks after "Liberation Day." It just happened the 100 day mark fell right in the middle of that.

Blame Liberation Day. Thank the bond markets and courts for taming it.

Tariff funds collected since "Liberation Day", 88 BILLION !

 

[dtrain79]

So, you believe the media doesn't believe it can harm Trump with polling? So, why are they doing it?

As for the Maryland man, only diehard liberals wanted to keep that trashy individual in the USA. Once again, Trump was right to get rid of that guy. After allowing the liberals to slobber all over him, the wife-beating data, human trafficking stops, etc., were all conveniently released.

"Due process" has always been silly with respect to illegals. As a lawyer, I understand you make a ton of $$$ pushing due process, period. But, regular people are sick of these people having more rights than actual Americans.

I make no money pushing due process and the due process to which illegal immigrants are entitled isn’t very high.

Having no idea of what the other side is actually arguing is a choice. One selected by lots of Americans on both red and blue teams.

 

[dtrain79]

No doubt but Miriam adelson poured in 230million dollars into his campaign. I also find it at least somewhat odd that he has sided with neocons like Lindsay graham while admonishing people like Massie who have sided with him when he was persecuted. I guarantee you the neocon establishment led by Mitch McConnell doesn’t like trump

Mitch McConnell has literally never been a neocon. Ever.

He does favor significant aid to Ukraine tho. Perhaps he’s anti Russia.

 

[Uncoach]

There are satellite pictures on line with 7 B - 2's on the parking areas off the active runways at DG !
They have been there for about 1 month.

Along with other assets like transports and air refueling planes.

I have spent most of this afternoon reading up on US air assets ! I was a little off with the specs on individual platforms.
1. B-2 bombers are stealth, but can carry only 2 30,000 Bunker Buster in internal rotary dispensers, up to 50,000 feet high. NOT 3 !
2. B- 1 AND B-52 both have carrying capability above 70,000 pounds, but not rated the single 30,000 BB. (At least publicly.)
3. B-2 fully loaded can fly over 6,000 nautical miles, over 10,000 nautical miles with 1 refueling.

There is NO Iraqi Air Force, every runway and taxi way have been bomb cratered, so their assets couldn't get airborne. Now they are being destroyed on the ground, no matter their age or airworthiness. This includes choppers !

I am sure you meant “Iranian” not “Iraqi”. Outside of the nukes, the big prize for Israel would be for them to take out at least 90% of the missile launchers. I’m not sure where they are at, but last I heard something reported it was about 35% - 40%.

 

[bung23]

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Alex Cole is as dumb as anyone who’ll post his idiotic tweet 🤣

 

[bung23]

Coming from the guy who regularly shares Catturd posts…

Funny that catturd has 10x the brains of the author of your post

 

[bung23]

Well, well, well. What have we here?

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Wonder what our resident axehole and his idiot minions who parroted the “most secure election in US history” narrative have to say about this…
Oh, right…. rUsSiAn dIsInFoRmAtIoN!!! 🤣