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Massive waste in government spending is a myth. Just like the Deep State. Concepts fit for consumption by MAGA.

Trump for the most part is cutting government services not waste. We will see how it goes over with voters in two years.

Most people consider 10s of billions being spent on non-citizens to be waste. Dems consider it needed services. Wouldn’t be needed if we just enforced laws over the last few years.

Dems acting like there isn’t a ton of waste in govt spending is a pretty terrible message. 20/80. Most people don’t buy it. We’ve all seen it at local, state, and federal levels.

Someone from Illinois acting like there isn’t a ton of government waste is pretty nuts.
 
Most people consider 10s of billions being spent on non-citizens to be waste. Dems consider it needed services. Wouldn’t be needed if we just enforced laws over the last few years.

Dems acting like there isn’t a ton of waste in govt spending is a pretty terrible message. 20/80. Most people don’t buy it. We’ve all seen it at local, state, and federal levels.

Someone from Illinois acting like there isn’t a ton of government waste is pretty nuts.
Illinois and the Federal government are two completely different animals. State of Illinois has a great deal more corruption and waste than the federal government. Also, I really don't care about waste in states that I don’t live in.

Based on the people I know that work for the federal government, you could reduce the federal workforce by 25% across the board. In addition the most useless workers are generally the old timers. However, when it comes to business travel and expense the government is very frugal.

When it comes to the Federal Government, the federal workforce is about 5% of the federal budget. 5% is comparable to most western countries. If you cut 25% of the workforce, you are cutting 1.25% of the budget. I am all for strategic reductions but that is not massive waste.

Trump is reducing government spending but most of it will be a reduction in services not waste. It will be interesting to see how it works out. We will know in two years.
 
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Cut headcount in critical departments that ensure public safety. I am sure that will turn out well. Tell air traffic controllers that they are eligible for a buyout and then told they weren't. Total clown show. Never have staff reductions been done in such a FUBAR manner.
 
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Illinois and the Federal government are two completely different animals. State of Illinois has a great deal more corruption and waste than the federal government. Also, I really don't care about waste in states that I don’t live in.

Based on the people I know that work for the federal government, you could reduce the federal workforce by 25% across the board. In addition the most useless workers are generally the old timers. However, when it comes to business travel and expense the government is very frugal.

When it comes to the Federal Government, the federal workforce is about 5% of the federal budget. 5% is comparable to most western countries. If you cut 25% of the workforce, you are cutting 1.25% of the budget. I am all for strategic reductions but that is not massive waste.

Trump is reducing government spending but most of it will be a reduction in services not waste. It will be interesting to see how it works out. We will know in two years.
There are all kinds of "services" that are nothing more than waste. Studying transgender mice is just the start.
 
Most people consider 10s of billions being spent on non-citizens to be waste. Dems consider it needed services. Wouldn’t be needed if we just enforced laws over the last few years.

Dems acting like there isn’t a ton of waste in govt spending is a pretty terrible message. 20/80. Most people don’t buy it. We’ve all seen it at local, state, and federal levels.

Someone from Illinois acting like there isn’t a ton of government waste is pretty nuts.
Believe me. Illinois needs DOGE, as do many Illinois municipalities. So much waste and corruption. The guy who created much of it has finally been prosecuted, but the creation is growing as big as JaBba’s belly.
 
I thought you were the one lecturing us on how a few billion dollars won't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Your TDS is showing.
You are correct; it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. However, great leaders lead by example. Trump isn't one of those. If Trump was a great leader, he would cut back on his own expenses given that cutting spending is the prime objective. Never going to happen with a grifter as President.
 
This is crazy. No wonder the dating scene for younger people is a mess.

I went from an All Boys school in Boston Harbor on an island to an All Boys Military at Manlius ! (Luckily surrounded by land.)

I asked my Mom and Dad where/how to find girls ? Dad thought they were superfluous to athletics.

Mom sent me to local Church dances !

Success in every way !
 
Illinois and the Federal government are two completely different animals. State of Illinois has a great deal more corruption and waste than the federal government. Also, I really don't care about waste in states that I don’t live in.

Based on the people I know that work for the federal government, you could reduce the federal workforce by 25% across the board. In addition the most useless workers are generally the old timers. However, when it comes to business travel and expense the government is very frugal.

When it comes to the Federal Government, the federal workforce is about 5% of the federal budget. 5% is comparable to most western countries. If you cut 25% of the workforce, you are cutting 1.25% of the budget. I am all for strategic reductions but that is not massive waste.

Trump is reducing government spending but most of it will be a reduction in services not waste. It will be interesting to see how it works out. We will know in two years.

You can’t possibly believe that. You’re complaining about the federal government spending $9 million a month on the President playing golf, and at the same time you want me to believe the federal govt is frugal with spending.

C’mon Jeff. You’re usually pretty level headed with this stuff.

We are $36 trillion in debt, and you just don’t care what states are spending their money on? You realize the states get federal funding to cover up the messes they create, right?

FEMA alone gave New York $640 million last year, just to take care of non-citizens. You have no issue with states pissing away $ and then begging for taxpayer $? Weird.
 
Essentially 80/20. Jeff takes the indefensible position because Trump.
Grasping at Straws !

Remember those paper straws before there was discovered to plastic ?

They had those paper inserts with Choc or Strawberry flavoring that you could draw/suck thru the straws ?

Anyone remember their name ?
 
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You are correct; it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. However, great leaders lead by example. Trump isn't one of those. If Trump was a great leader, he would cut back on his own expenses given that cutting spending is the prime objective. Never going to happen with a grifter as President.
I am guessing you know very few good leaders. 100% of people have been a hypocrite at one time or another. Especially one that speaks in front of a camera a great deal of the time.
 
You can’t possibly believe that. You’re complaining about the federal government spending $9 million a month on the President playing golf, and at the same time you want me to believe the federal govt is frugal with spending.

C’mon Jeff. You’re usually pretty level headed with this stuff.

We are $36 trillion in debt, and you just don’t care what states are spending their money on? You realize the states get federal funding to cover up the messes they create, right?

FEMA alone gave New York $640 million last year, just to take care of non-citizens. You have no issue with states pissing away $ and then begging for taxpayer $? Weird.
Is Jeff still pretending NY was just spending their own money? He is so funny!
 

Cut headcount in critical departments that ensure public safety. I am sure that will turn out well. Tell air traffic controllers that they are eligible for a buyout and then told they weren't. Total clown show. Never have staff reductions been done in such a FUBAR manner.
I have NO issues with cutting, replacing ATC with piss poor performance reviews. Can we say DEI hires ?

Need more ATC ? The NYPD enforces MANDATORY overtime EVERY day !
Yes, they have a Union just less effective than the ATC one !

The US Military hires, trains, uses their OWN ATC all OVER the World ! Combine them !
 
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She smoked pot, had to have staff pay attention to her drinking issues on the campaign trail and she went down on Willie and willy. Great leader!
LOL what a pathetic whatabout post for quite a few reason. Amazing that you attack (supposed) love life when the leader you idolize is a whoremonger and slept with anyone that he could pay to do so.
 
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I hesitate to post this, but FWIW. Zelinsky deserves all the criticism he has gotten and more but this one may have been over the top.


That is correct, it was doctored RW BS. That was exposed days ago however.
 
Don’t get upset because I was right.

I’ve talked more about trafficking than anyone on this board. Yes, horrible under Biden. Also horrible under Trump.

I don’t think either party is that concerned with going after human trafficking, and everything I have seen backs that up. Too many of our elites are involved.
Yes, you TALKED about it plenty. Agreed.

Thanks to me and others, the issue is being addressed starting with a closed border.
 
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Trump has proclaimed all sorts of characters he barely knows as great guys. I am not saying it is not a flaw of his, it is, but this is proof of nothing illegal.
Geez, negotiating 101, butter up the other side. Flatter them and then take advantage down the road, if needed. Zelensky should have tried this method in the Oval Office.
 
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He OWNES the golf courses !

So he's saving huge money on green fees and cart rentals !
But he charges the Secret Service double for rooms and accommodations. He made millions pulling that grift first term. Plus did you ever see the personnel and equipment involved in a Presidential motorcade, even to a golf course?
 
If you want the hypocrisy of Trump slide, go for it. Trump is on a mission to cut waste as long as it does not apply to him.

You are a sad little man and a shell of your alleged old self. I want Trump refreshed and ready to go and if that requires frequent golf trips (recall, he made Colombia comply within hours on taking their criminals while golfing) for $100M - BFD!

What's the ROI? Well, Biden sent $250B to Ukraine with zero return. Trump in a single move will secure mineral rights worth $250B - $500B and stop future funds from being sent to Ukraine for laundering. That is better than buying NVDA 5 years ago by a lot.

Like it or not, all presidents take holidays - Obama shut down the best beach on Oahu for 2.5 weeks every Christmas (Lanikai) and made frequent visits to Matha's vineyard.

Trump goes to his home on weekends and this really upsets Jeff. Hey Jeff - maybe if deranged members of your party didn't try to KILL Trump at every rally and golf course, costs would be lower.
 

Cut headcount in critical departments that ensure public safety. I am sure that will turn out well. Tell air traffic controllers that they are eligible for a buyout and then told they weren't. Total clown show. Never have staff reductions been done in such a FUBAR manner.



Do you realize you are complementing Trump? Never before have we discussed federal government staff reductions.

I know they have probationary clocks ticking, so time is of the essence. Government always grows - you should be happy - but derangement does not allow it.
 
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I thought Noem handled herself really well here, and I thought the interviewer was professional, which is unusual. She did try to get in a couple of gotcha questions but they were fair and again, professionally delivered. Almost gives me hope.

 
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