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I looked it up. It's basically just "give us more and better weapons". Oh, and NATO membership. Not what I would call a real stategy to win.
Only an idiot would think that Trump and Vance were embarrassments today…… alas, here we are…
Interesting. Seeing a post like this that has images of all these X posts using the same phrasing may indicate what they are saying.
He's a former comedian, so I wouldn't expect him to be very detailed at what I like to call strategery.
Former US Navy Member Pleads Guilty to Plotting Iranian Terror Attack Against America
A former Navy recruit has pleaded guilty to playing a role in an Iranian plot to attack Great Lakes Naval Station.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Unbelievable…. Tightening up our military can’t come soon enough…
Again for those in the back…. Only an IDIOT would think Trump and Vance were embarrassments today.
Please, for once in your life, get a damned clue…
When in doubt, find the usual suspects. I don’t think this video shows what the X poster thinks, but Rice/Blinken/Nuland suck. This won’t end well for Ukraine, if their leadership continues to follow Obama cronies. The nutty BS is Rice suggested he is the elected leader of Ukraine. He suspended elections. He’s nothing more than a dictator at this point.
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The more I think about it, the more I think it fits the pattern of things like the "dissent" organized for Republican politicians' town halls. Assuming it was a broader European effort, likely encouraged by the American left, it was probably an attempt to "embarrass" Trump/Vance as payback for the recent blunt talk regarding freedom of speech and the like in Europe. The biggest tell is how quickly the chorus was ready for the "Trump embarrassed himself!" refrain.
I dunno if Zelensky is just unskilled or if he naively let himself be emboldened by an anti-US cohort whose priority is to undermine Trump no matter what it takes, but it seems like if he simultaneously wanted an economic partnership with the US but still had concerns about security heading towards some sort of arrangement with Russia to end the conflict, there were numerous things he could have done besides showing up in POTUS's residence for what was supposed to be an event celebrating a new relationship with the US that wasn't limited to receiving money and guns and bombs; then attempting to renegotiate on live TV to get more money and guns and bombs.
The thing that seems to be getting overlooked is that Putin hasn't signed up to anything yet. The trade deal with Ukraine would have sent the message that the US is not going away anytime soon--it gave the US an interest in the situation beyond the morbid game of paying Ukraine to kill Russians. Taking that expanded relationship off the table and driving a wedge between Ukraine and it's biggest benefactor is a boon for Putin for the next four years as Trump has signaled clearly the US does not want to escalate the situation into WW III. It seems to me Zelensky would get a more favorable settlement with the US as a strategic long-term peacetime financial ally/partner than he will counting on the EU's military muscle to intimidate Putin into submission. So if Europe did put Zelensky up to this, it'll be interesting to see if they step up. I'm just as happy if Europe resolves it's own situation, even if the only reason they finally get around to it is to attempt to dunk on Trump. My guess is that it won't be long until Zelensky and/or Europe are back looking for US $. I've never had it myself, but I can see where endless free money could get a little addicting.
I think she's right that it was a setup, just not the setup she described. It would have been a big win for Trump to get that deal signed. He's not the type to stage a dog and pony show to publicize a significant loss on the path to achieving his diplomatic agenda.
Thanks for saying this. I wish I'd have thought to state it so astutely.
Former US Navy Member Pleads Guilty to Plotting Iranian Terror Attack Against America
A former Navy recruit has pleaded guilty to playing a role in an Iranian plot to attack Great Lakes Naval Station.
Unbelievable…. Tightening up our military can’t come soon enough…
20 years in prison is not enough
All these “experts” who say Trump should have kept this meeting behind closed doors ought to take their own advice.
Russia has done MUCH WORSE to Ukraine in their two histories !
This points to the real failure of World politics' and that is the UN to be unable to deploy to keep world peace, in what can be called local skirmishes between small (at least thinking on a world wide scale) incidents.
Dictators relish small regional wars, because it keeps their populace focused on the foreign enemy and NOT on conditions in their own dictatorship !
Already there is unrest popping up in Ukraine internally in the past 2 days.
This is starting to come under the Dems "free speech mantra", that says you can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theatre !
(You can't unless there IS a real fire !)
OR
Never bring an ex-Marine to a peace meeting ! (ex-Marines say there are NO ex-Marines, just older Marines !)
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