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BS, give up comparing it to a divorce (you are wrong they start in same room) or professional sport contract negotiations which is a moronic comparison.
I forgot Trump is a genius! Anyone that believes that Trump didn't get taken to the cleaners by Kim is a huge idiot.
I have been in several mediations. Every single one of them involved being separated at some point during the working out of the details.
I find it interesting how the left complains about every move Trump makes. Your boi Biden drove the car into the ditch and you are complaining about how the tow truck driver is trying to pull it out.
Reminder: Biden did zero to stop this conflict, but spent 100s of billions of US tax dollars funding it. You voted for Biden. You may want to sit this one out.
Dude, the mediation period ended a few years and tens of thousands of bodies ago.
We need a broker to put together a deal to end the war. Zelensky and Putin have shown they are not able to negotiate a deal together. Zelensky clearly can’t end the war. Trump can’t end it on his own. He needs Putin to make a deal. Hence, why he is dealing with Putin.
Your "you might want to sit this one out" is getting old, besides ridiculous.
We’re all still waiting for you to say when you think this war will end on its own.
Has the President of the US meet him, on his turf and treat him as an equal. US always treated him as a pissant cold blooded dictator. Mad Kim looked legit in the eyes of many, especially Koreans. Cancelled Korean war exercises. Trump talked glowingly about him, and how they were in love(what the hell was that about?) Received love letters from him. N. Korea kept working on nuclear and missiles and now more advanced than ever. They got everything they could have dreamed of and gave up nothing.
Exactly what I posted! At some point, never to start and certainly not the entire meeting.
Talking points on Trump's first month
Talking Points Memo today is about Donald Trump's first month in office. So one down, 47 more months to go. Liberal America will be happy to hear that, right? I have to tell you that Donald Trump has done more in his first month, second term, of course, than any other president in history. I went back last night, Confronting the Presidents, as you know, 23 consecutive weeks on the New York Times list, and now it'll extend into March. We got the numbers yesterday, they're still phenomenal. If you haven't read Confronting the Presidents, you might want to consider it. But anyway, Trump has done more in 31 days than anybody else who was elected president. Who do you think was second? George Washington, first president, because he had to reorganize the government. I mean, they had a structure in Philadelphia, but they weren't a federal government. That only happened after we booted the king out of here. And then Washington moved to New York City, where he governed the country. And he was pretty busy putting everything together. In fact, today is an anniversary, I don't know how many years, but of the first post office, federal post office. Washington instituted it. But Trump did more in 31 days than George Washington did. Now, Washington had an excuse. He had to get furniture. Martha was giving him a hard time. She didn't want to move to New York. He had to get curtains. I mean there was really nothing going on, structurally. But it is quite amazing what Donald Trump has done.
So let's run it down. And I'm doing this because if Kamala Harris had been elected, none of these things that I'm going to mention, there are 10 of them, would have happened. None of them. So just keep that in mind. First one is the Gaza hostage release. 24 hostages have been released. It's estimated there are 35 remaining in Hamas hands. Now, the Biden people had a little bit to do with that, but not a lot. It was the Trump people who made it happen. I know that because I was involved to some extent. I have not reported that involvement. I will write about it. But the time isn't right now to do so. But I was directly involved with this. And I know what happened. So 24 hostages are out, and that is a very significant achievement because Biden couldn't get any out. He couldn't get any. They just ignored him, the terrorists. Number two, the Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE. It's creating chaos. Elon Musk brought in, all right, and his job is to assess wasteful spending and fraud and to cut down a federal workforce, which is far too big because we have a $36 trillion debt. So that never would happen under Kamala Harris. Ever. The Democrats don't want to cut spending. They're the party of spending. Now, I don't know whether in the end Musk will be successful. He's uncovered some stuff, and that's good. But now it kicks back to Congress, and they're trying to claw back money. I don't know if they're going to be successful there. Most of that money has already been spent. But it's a worthy effort, is it not? If you're loyal American, I don't care what party you're in. You don't want wasteful spending. That insults the taxpayers.
Number three, the Ukraine negotiations. Again, Biden couldn't do it. He couldn't get anywhere. And in the space of 31 days, Trump's got Putin at the table. Last week in Saudi Arabia, it wasn't Putin, but it was Putin's guy, Lavrov. Okay, that's three. Kamala Harris in a million years would not have been able to do that. Number four, DEI banishment. Democrats didn't want to banish it. It's out. Okay, gone from the federal area. And it's a skin color play and a gender play. That's against the Constitution. Number five, gas and oil regulations. Trump has signed five executive orders. Now, we haven't seen any benefit from that yet, but it's a little bit too early. I figure about May, because summer gas prices usually surge because everybody's zipping around on vacation. If there's a surge this year, then those EOs would have failed. But we got to give it to then to see if that's going to lower prices. And again, Biden could have done five executive orders to make it easier for fossil fuels to be harvested and transported. He didn't do it. Six, border security. In the first half of this month, the one month for Trump, migrant encounters, which means border patrol getting face to face physically with somebody trying to get across the border, dropped 93%. Because Trump put troops on the border, he stopped all the asylum madness, and Biden opened the border completely. Didn't want any restraints at all. None. Okay, that's six. Number seven, deportation of criminal migrants. Now, this has halted, okay, very interesting, got off to a robust start. 5 ,700 illegal immigrants have been deported. That's according to the Department of Homeland Security. But in the last 10 days, almost ground to a halt. And I don't know why. We're watching it. We'll have a report next week on it. But the deportation is more difficult, I believe, than the Trump administration thought it would be.
Number eight, Mexican troops at the border. This is another thing Kamala Harris, in a million years, she wouldn't have deported anybody either. But in a million years, would have not cajoled the president of Mexico and put those troops on the border. And she did it with Trump like that. And that'll help. That's gonna help. Number nine, Trump has signed 68 executive orders. Biden signed 32 in his first month. And Trump wants to blow up what he calls a corrupt federal system. That's what this is about. And the last one is Trump administration suing sanctuary cities. First two are Chicago and New York, Illinois, and New York State. And the Justice Department is filing suits saying, hey, you're disobeying federal law. We're gonna take you to court. And there could be fines. There could be all kinds of stuff. And again, that would never have happened had Kamala Harris been president. So whether you despise Trump or you love him or whatever, you got to give him some credit for instituting his vision, okay, of which he got elected. Told the folks this is what I want to do. They voted for him. And now he's doing it.
Talking Points Memo today is about Donald Trump's first month in office. So one down, 47 more months to go. Liberal America will be happy to hear that, right? I have to tell you that Donald Trump has done more in his first month, second term, of course, than any other president in history. I went back last night, Confronting the Presidents, as you know, 23 consecutive weeks on the New York Times list, and now it'll extend into March. We got the numbers yesterday, they're still phenomenal. If you haven't read Confronting the Presidents, you might want to consider it. But anyway, Trump has done more in 31 days than anybody else who was elected president. Who do you think was second? George Washington, first president, because he had to reorganize the government. I mean, they had a structure in Philadelphia, but they weren't a federal government. That only happened after we booted the king out of here. And then Washington moved to New York City, where he governed the country. And he was pretty busy putting everything together. In fact, today is an anniversary, I don't know how many years, but of the first post office, federal post office. Washington instituted it. But Trump did more in 31 days than George Washington did. Now, Washington had an excuse. He had to get furniture. Martha was giving him a hard time. She didn't want to move to New York. He had to get curtains. I mean there was really nothing going on, structurally. But it is quite amazing what Donald Trump has done.
So let's run it down. And I'm doing this because if Kamala Harris had been elected, none of these things that I'm going to mention, there are 10 of them, would have happened. None of them. So just keep that in mind. First one is the Gaza hostage release. 24 hostages have been released. It's estimated there are 35 remaining in Hamas hands. Now, the Biden people had a little bit to do with that, but not a lot. It was the Trump people who made it happen. I know that because I was involved to some extent. I have not reported that involvement. I will write about it. But the time isn't right now to do so. But I was directly involved with this. And I know what happened. So 24 hostages are out, and that is a very significant achievement because Biden couldn't get any out. He couldn't get any. They just ignored him, the terrorists. Number two, the Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE. It's creating chaos. Elon Musk brought in, all right, and his job is to assess wasteful spending and fraud and to cut down a federal workforce, which is far too big because we have a $36 trillion debt. So that never would happen under Kamala Harris. Ever. The Democrats don't want to cut spending. They're the party of spending. Now, I don't know whether in the end Musk will be successful. He's uncovered some stuff, and that's good. But now it kicks back to Congress, and they're trying to claw back money. I don't know if they're going to be successful there. Most of that money has already been spent. But it's a worthy effort, is it not? If you're loyal American, I don't care what party you're in. You don't want wasteful spending. That insults the taxpayers.
Number three, the Ukraine negotiations. Again, Biden couldn't do it. He couldn't get anywhere. And in the space of 31 days, Trump's got Putin at the table. Last week in Saudi Arabia, it wasn't Putin, but it was Putin's guy, Lavrov. Okay, that's three. Kamala Harris in a million years would not have been able to do that. Number four, DEI banishment. Democrats didn't want to banish it. It's out. Okay, gone from the federal area. And it's a skin color play and a gender play. That's against the Constitution. Number five, gas and oil regulations. Trump has signed five executive orders. Now, we haven't seen any benefit from that yet, but it's a little bit too early. I figure about May, because summer gas prices usually surge because everybody's zipping around on vacation. If there's a surge this year, then those EOs would have failed. But we got to give it to then to see if that's going to lower prices. And again, Biden could have done five executive orders to make it easier for fossil fuels to be harvested and transported. He didn't do it. Six, border security. In the first half of this month, the one month for Trump, migrant encounters, which means border patrol getting face to face physically with somebody trying to get across the border, dropped 93%. Because Trump put troops on the border, he stopped all the asylum madness, and Biden opened the border completely. Didn't want any restraints at all. None. Okay, that's six. Number seven, deportation of criminal migrants. Now, this has halted, okay, very interesting, got off to a robust start. 5 ,700 illegal immigrants have been deported. That's according to the Department of Homeland Security. But in the last 10 days, almost ground to a halt. And I don't know why. We're watching it. We'll have a report next week on it. But the deportation is more difficult, I believe, than the Trump administration thought it would be.
Number eight, Mexican troops at the border. This is another thing Kamala Harris, in a million years, she wouldn't have deported anybody either. But in a million years, would have not cajoled the president of Mexico and put those troops on the border. And she did it with Trump like that. And that'll help. That's gonna help. Number nine, Trump has signed 68 executive orders. Biden signed 32 in his first month. And Trump wants to blow up what he calls a corrupt federal system. That's what this is about. And the last one is Trump administration suing sanctuary cities. First two are Chicago and New York, Illinois, and New York State. And the Justice Department is filing suits saying, hey, you're disobeying federal law. We're gonna take you to court. And there could be fines. There could be all kinds of stuff. And again, that would never have happened had Kamala Harris been president. So whether you despise Trump or you love him or whatever, you got to give him some credit for instituting his vision, okay, of which he got elected. Told the folks this is what I want to do. They voted for him. And now he's doing it.
The unjustifiable was us having Biden in charge, and him sitting around and doing nothing for the last 4 years. No one respected him. No one feared him. Now Trump has to clean up the mess, and part of that is meeting with the person that Biden was too inept to influence.
Ya, saw this talk track on CNN and MSNBC. Ya, so now he is legitimate. Whatever that means.
N Korea is another nuclear nation run by a dictator. It is probably better to have open communications there.
I was sent back to mediation several times in this one situation. After the first time, we were never together. We were obviously not getting along.
The two countries are at war killing each other. That might be the epitome of not getting along.
Did Joetato and Word Salad mediate the two leaders together as they tried to solve this scenario?
Just skimmed first sentences. Biden deported more people in his first month than Trump has. Biden had the same number of Mexican troops posted at the border. The Gaza peace deal was negotiated by Biden over many months. Putin wasn't at a negotiation as he was persona non gratis under severe sanctions by the west. Trump hasn't done anything except to attempt to turn US into Russia. Putin playbook.
This is a topic I know something about. Lil' Rocket Man completely folded . You have no idea what was going on immediately before and immediately after that engagement. I have no insight into what's happened over there during the last 3.5 years, but LRM closed his mouth and put his toys away for the balance of Trump's term.
Massie is one of the biggest idiots in the House. So he has a good chance of getting elected Senator in Kentucky ( see Paul)
Obviously you have no clue what was going on over there. For the price of a handshake and a pat on the head, we got a pretty good deal in my estimation. Human life is worth a lot."completely folded" but he got many things and gave nothing up. Art of the Deal.
It’s a big stretch to say Trump got nothing. The 38th Parallel was pretty quiet, too. Allowed us to use resources elsewhere.
Did they try to solve the scenario? Throwing money and machines at Ukraine to keep fighting and getting their own people killed doesn’t seem like a viable solution…especially now.
NY Post Ridicules Trump’s Ukraine Stance With ‘THIS IS A DICTATOR’ Cover
NY Post pushed back on Trump’s Ukraine’s stance with a full front cover image of Russian President Vladimir Putin with an all-caps headline.
www.mediaite.com
People getting less excited about Trump.
I know exactly why you don’t like him. He doesn’t support your international interests.
Remember when we needed lankfords border deal?
He doesn’t remember he is almost always wrong. Probably voted for Hillary so between her, Jotatoes and Kammy, he voted for the 3 worst candidates of all time, one of which is considered the worst President in history. When people say they are tired of Trump already, they have been programmed by morons. Nobody can change everything on a dime. The price of fuel needs to come down. That will take some months, especially since the previous admin drained the reserves in an attempt to buy votes. Let’s see how the economy is around early May.
Trump is the third worst president. Trump is consistently in the bottom five on most lists. Live in your MAGA bubble.
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Jeff told us we needed that corrupt border deal. Harley, we just needed a strong leader who wants a closed border. Jeff loves open borders
If Trump actually implements high tariffs and large reductions in government spending, he could lead the economy into stagflation. I will be sure to lock into long term bonds at those high interest rates.
"Shuttle diplomacy" is what it's called. Not a new thing, of course. Eventually Zelensky/Ukraine will have to sign up to any agreement Putin is willing to sign up to, or keep fighting. As Trump apparently put it today, Ukraine doesn't hold many cards, so the administration's job is to figure out how far Putin is willing to back down then see if it is acceptable to Zelensky.
All of them that would have been lost had we decided it necessary to take all his toys away from him. His toes were right up against the line for a while there.
I live in the real world. Trump is unpopular, because the Dems and the media kept calling him a racist and Hitler. You side with crazies who are still expecting him to round up leftist weirdos and throw them in concentration camps. Donald J Trump was elected in an electoral massacre of who you voted for. Donald J Trump won a majority of voters because people remembered how he ended wars, how gas was cheap and how people all had jobs. A bottom 3 President doesn’t create an economy that decreases the wage gap. It’s amazing what happens when social media isn’t censoring truths. You voted for a turd of a human being who pardoned his dipstick kid, sold out America and wasn’t interested in even recognizing a granddaughter his druggy kid helped create. And he wasn’t even in charge. Obama was clearly in his third term and absolutely pissed that Dr. Jill outmaneuvered him and the cabal to get Harris at the top of the ticket. Keep riding the crazy train, buddy.
From your description, Trump is basically Putin's executive assistant. You make Trump sound completely impotent. If Trump would have shown a willingness to support Ukraine, Ukraine would have more leverage at the bargaining table. As it is, Trump completely capitulated and screwed this up to give Putin all the leverage.
Electoral massacre? What a joke. The popular vote represents the will of the people not the electoral college results. The electoral college results are skewed because each state is winner take all. Win a state by one vote or a million it doesn't matter. Trump won the popular vote by less than 2 percentage points. Hardly, a landside.
Everybody thinks Trump was a bad president because the Democrats and the media called him names? Talking about riding on the crazy train. 🤪 People think he was a bad president because he is a petty vindictive narcissistic sociopath. Trump himself admits he is vindictive.
Somehow I'm not surprised that's how you would frame it. That would make him Zelensky's EA too. Others might call it statecraft. What has the US given Putin? Nothing but a phone call that I'm aware of. And we know very little of what was said during that conversation. And none of it binds Ukraine.
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