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First of all, only you and stoned are losing their minds. We know Trump isn’t going to have the US “occupy” Gaza. It’s called posturing. So just let your little pearl-clutching emotions simmer down a bit and let’s see what happens. It’s certainly not going to result in Trump Condo’s in Gaza. Geez.
I didn’t say we did. Israel did. We just provided funding and bombs. Now we’re pledging to clean it up by removing the citizens.
If the US rebuilds Gaza without using our own troops or funding, I’ll happily admit I was wrong.
You’re talking about me controlling my emotions while cursing and using immature insults. I guess you missed the publisher’s warning yesterday?
I agree with you here, fundamentally, but with the caveat I have no prescience so I'm not going to declare them mistakes just yet. On the surface none of them seem like good news.
Until we have boots on the ground in Gaza, an event I think is < 50/50 probability, I'm going to wait and see.
Unless that woman's job is predicated on her knowing how to spot and dismantle the standard bag of dirty tricks lobbyists of such groups use to clear the way for that kind of stuff to be declared 'healthy' and dumped by the ton into our food supply, that one is the single most alarming thing he's done in my view.
Not familiar with any big pharma shills appointed, but not saying it hasn't happened. But that's similar, and interesting in light of how apoplectic the senators most awash in Big Pharma money have been over his HHS nomination. But it's just like the seed oil lobbyist appointment. If it's not an attempt to recruit knowledge of the enemy and put it to use against them, then it bodes poorly for MAHA.
I, like many, have a bad taste in my mouth over mRNA vaccines, but that doesn't mean the technology can be of no benefit in the future. Rushing something out with inadequate testing/understanding, engaging in a heavy handed campaign to force them on people, then censoring both very legitimate concerns and much better understood alternatives, was the real problem. The pandemic was a singular event in my 60 years, people were whipped into a panic, and maybe some bad actors exploited the situation, or maybe it was just a "honest" blunder. Hopefully an honest transparent account of the full story will surface at some point, so as future mRNA therapies emerge, people are given their right to informed consent. What I don't particularly like is a federal government sponsoring a single technology so heavily. That tends to create solutions in search of a problem.
Great post. An articulate response free of disparaging remarks.
If the plan to appoint Kailee Buller was to use the enemy against themselves then I applaud the move. I doubt that’s what is happening. Nobody in the MAHA movement is happy about it. Brook Rollins and Janette Nesheiwat are poor appointments too. They’ll get their shot, but neither has a track record that aligns with what RFK is attempting to do with MAHA. There was a lot of press about the Democrats that receive Big Pharma funding during the RFK hearing. I’m sure you realize this isn’t just a Democrat problem.
On Gaza, we all just have to wait and see. The way Trump announced this plan was a disaster and his press secretary had to walk back a lot of what he said. We’ll see what happens. My guess is Trump administration will not able to turn Gaza into a resort location without US troops and funds. Apparently, it’s not too popular to post a dissenting opinion here. I posted the same things I saw many Republican talking heads saying yesterday and I was met with immature name calling and insults instead of thoughtful responses.
On the mRNA stuff—everything about Project Stargate should be extremely concerning to everyone regardless of politics. The fact that Trump rolled out two transhumanists, Altman and Ellison, to announce that project on day one is scary. He’s also now aligned with Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Gates. It’s not good for anyone.
Local “journalist” says only 1 TdA member arrested. Of course he’s been misleading the public about this for months.
What are your thoughts being so local? The reporter is lying? Do you know sources in Aurora who feel differently about the 100 vs the 1?
No, just have to look above and see ol' Hog Trough Lindsey got himself a spot at the front of the line. The uniparty grift is a bipartisan effort. And Cassidy's attempts to handcuff Kennedy going forward shows the same. That said, I don't know how much Big Pharma or other interests potentially affected have stuffed in his pockets.
AI in general is a tricky thing. It's here to stay. It could easily be used for good, but just as easily used nefariously. Our adversaries will deploy it so I don't think we can pretend to stuff the genie back in the bottle. The only very tepid positive I can see is that at least some will be done in the relative open with at least a token indication of it being used for the common good, rather than it staying hidden in the secret workings of the military and security state. But that's not enough to sway my extreme skepticism. And I still say the gov't should be a little more reserved in their sponsoring of such things. I saw somewhere DOGE is at NIH now, which will probably detail the level of end around funding that made it to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, another case where things ostensibly done for good were upon scrutiny shown to be accompanied by an end around to engage in the nefarious.
Yes. There is a “uni-party”. While the establishment Republicans pretend to be different than Democrats, they become part of the DC grift and vote their own self-interest and not the will of the people they represent.
I think that *if* our troops are present there, it would be in an ancillary role but not in an active combat role.
Agreed, I need to control my emotions better and not let whiny, scared Nancy’s get under my skin. I’ve always struggled with that…
What an image! Imagine Pedo Pete surrounded by 100 young girls,
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I’ll do some digging around today. Hard to tell what happened here.
I agree on keeping the AI advancements transparent. I just don’t trust Altman. At all. OpenAI was supposed to be non-profit and open source. He burned Musk on that one. There’s also some concerning accusations regarding different aspects of his personal and professional life, but since they’re unsubstantiated, I won’t mention them.
If DOGE uncovers what really happened with covid and the vaccines then I want to see those responsible face justice. In my opinion, Trump is far too proud of Operation Warp Speed to see that through. Time will tell.
Here is a list of some Republicans in Congress who have received funding from the pharmaceutical industry, based on recent data available on the web:
Senators:
Senators:
- John Curtis (R-Utah) - Received $233,566 in the 2023-2024 election cycle.
- Mitt Romney (R-Utah) - Historically received $3,378,614 between 1990 and 2024.
- Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) - Historically received $2,878,132 between 1990 and 2024.
- Mitch McConnell (R-KY) - Has received significant funding; specific amounts mentioned include $2.0 million and $197,386 in a particular cycle.
- Lindsey Graham (R-SC) - Received $2,000,000.
- Susan Collins (R-ME) - Received $440,000.
- Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) - Specific amount not detailed, but noted as receiving funding.
- Thom Tillis (R-NC) - One of the top recipients.
- Bill Cassidy (R-LA) - Over $100,000 in a cycle.
- Cory Gardner (R-CO) - Over $100,000 in a cycle.
- John Cornyn (R-TX) - Over $100,000 in a cycle.
- Steve Daines (R-MT) - Over $100,000 in a cycle.
- Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) - Historically received $2.2 million.
- Brett Guthrie (R-KY) - Received $516,803 from Big Pharma and $24,900 specifically from Eli Lilly.
- Fred Upton (R-MI) - Historically received $1.8 million.
- Richard Burr (R-NC) - Historically received $1.6 million.
- Greg Walden (R-OR) - Over $200,000 in a cycle.
- Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) - Over $200,000 in a cycle.
- David Valadao (R-CA) - Received $219,967 in the 2022 election cycle.
- David Schweikert (R-AZ) - Received $164,008 in the 2022 election cycle.
- Ken Calvert (R-CA) - Received $153,365 in the 2022 election cycle.
- Steve Chabot (R-OH) - Received $149,892 in the 2022 election cycle.
$15,158,936
Total from Pharmaceuticals/Health Products PACs to candidates, 2023-2024
$6,686,676 To Democrats
$8,407,460 To Republicans
RFK Jr. 'tempered' his stance on vaccines in private discussions, Pfizer CEO says.
In fact, he said that RFK's views on vaccines are not as radical as publicly perceived.
And he isn't the only one to have had closed-door meetings with RFK and left with the same conclusion. Bourla said that he met with Kennedy and President Donald Trump in Mar-a-Lago prior to Trump taking office. Trump brought up the topic of vaccines.
"Mr. Kennedy had very modest views. So, he tempered his views on vaccines, at least in our discussions, very much. If he will do things to try and undermine the capability of vaccines, I think the medical community, the payers ... will all oppose him," Bourla told Yahoo Finance.
Trump loves Pfizer. Don’t forget that.
