And sitting here wondering how are both these schools so much better than us in Football and Basketball? What advantage does either school or state have over Illinois that makes them so much better? It doesn't make sense. We should own both these neighboring schools in both major sports. We have the population advantage, in state talent advantage, and we are even closer to other major population areas like Indy and St. Louis. There is no reason we should be so far behind these 2 yet we have been for years.