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[JeffT818]

Ya, still wrong. He said it never happens. Then he said just a few. Stone doesn’t know what he is talking about.

Most of those “companies” give payments to individuals as part of their scam.

He needs to learn to sit out some of these convos. It just exposes how clueless he is.

Would it not be very difficult for a typical Medicare patient to defraud the system without a corrupt Healthcare organization? Doesn't almost all Medicare fraud originate through corrupt Healthcare organizations?

I think that is his point. I don't have Medicare so I don't know.

 

[rillaman]

Would it not be very difficult for a typical Medicare patient to defraud the system without a corrupt Healthcare organization?

I think that is his point. I don't have Medicare so I don't know

Typical Medicare patients are not the ones looking to commit fraud, but some take advantage of the program. Some might not even know that they are committing fraud. That’s why the official govt website warns people about different ways individuals and scam businesses commit Medicare fraud.

He didn’t say that. He said individuals don’t get $ from Medicare. That is false. Passing the $ through a business doesn’t mean individuals aren’t the ones eventually getting the benefit or free services.

He’s like you, he doesn’t know. But he speaks very confidently about something he doesn’t know. And he’s wrong. He knows it, that’s why he backpedaled from “no individuals get Medicare $”, to “only a few”.

 

[rillaman]

And for those claiming that non citizens never get Medicare $, again, try to think critically.

"The federal criminal complaint states the pair put foreign nationals in charge of the labs, most of whom have left the country and not returned."

Those foreign nationals were getting paid by businesses that were committing Medicare fraud. The fraud $ went to the businesses, and the businesses pay foreign nationals. In the end, that has foreign nationals getting Medicare $$.

 

[rillaman]

None of this is new. Some people need to be more curious.

Dozens charged after CBS News exposes Medicare scam targeting seniors

A CBS News investigation found recruiters entice seniors to submit a DNA sample for a "free" genetic cancer risk test. Then, Medicare gets the bill

www.cbsnews.com

"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/medica...dicare-fraud-scheme-cases-cbs-news-exclusive/"

- 35, not a few

"The individuals charged are accused of submitting more than $2.1 billion in false Medicare claims."

 

[Uncoach]

@rillaman wants to discuss fraud. California is the biggest fraud, but Illinois is close behind.

 

[Uncoach]

This isn’t protest.

 

[stoneaxe27]

Typical Medicare patients are not the ones looking to commit fraud, but some take advantage of the program. Some might not even know that they are committing fraud. That’s why the official govt website warns people about different ways individuals and scam businesses commit Medicare fraud.

He didn’t say that. He said individuals don’t get $ from Medicare. That is false. Passing the $ through a business doesn’t mean individuals aren’t the ones eventually getting the benefit or free services.

He’s like you, he doesn’t know. But he speaks very confidently about something he doesn’t know. And he’s wrong. He knows it, that’s why he backpedaled from “no individuals get Medicare $”, to “only a few”.

You are off on one of your know nothing rants again either out of boredom or you can't admit you are wrong as you know nothing on the topic. Like your hilarious claims that Florida doesn't have tourist/visitor seasons.

 

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[tjfleck6]

Feeling superior to half the country puts you in the same bucket as Hillary Clinton.

I don’t feel that way. Probably makes me more relatable than the guy hunting down obituaries and suicide notices for possible jab connections.

A total loser response. Expected.

 

[BigWill]

Supreme Court decides 2 suits for Trump Administration on Friday. Both 6 - 3.

!. Grants DOGE the right under Article 2 and Executive power to gain access to All SSA numbers to search for waste and fraud.
2. Enjoins federal labor Unions from the right to FOIA Executive communications.

Another Win for Trump on Friday afternoon.

Appellate Court of Appeals, DC 2 - 1 to Government.

AP sues in DC Federal District Court to retain their seats in White House, District Court finds for AP.

White House Appeals to Appellate Court, WH Wins.

 

[stoneaxe27]

None of this is new. Some people need to be more curious.

Dozens charged after CBS News exposes Medicare scam targeting seniors

A CBS News investigation found recruiters entice seniors to submit a DNA sample for a "free" genetic cancer risk test. Then, Medicare gets the bill

www.cbsnews.com

"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/medica...dicare-fraud-scheme-cases-cbs-news-exclusive/"

- 35, not a few

"The individuals charged are accused of submitting more than $2.1 billion in false Medicare claims."

You are being intentionally ridiculous. Every act is committed by an individual. We were talking medical provider versus patient as the fraudster. Every example you look up and post is a medical provider through an individual exec or manager. Get off it, the fraud to those programs result from over billing or billing for treatment services never provided.

 

[BigWill]

Regressives.

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My 65 Mustang convertible was red with black interior.

 

[BigWill]

Men charged in $136M Medicare fraud scheme for COVID tests

Federal authorities charge Syed Mehdi Hussain and Syed Murtuza Kablazada with health care fraud, accusing them of defrauding Medicare out of $136 million through a scheme involving COVID-19 tests that were neither wanted nor received.

www.wisn.com

Read this article slowly. Note the part about them hiring individuals to help commit the fraud. The article highlights that many have left the country.

Think they did it for free, or do you think those individuals collected $ from Medicare? Think critically.

Bosch has a whole series of episodes where Harry took down a prescription network of fraud !

 

[BigWill]

@rillaman wants to discuss fraud. California is the biggest fraud, but Illinois is close behind.

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Every burned out car in LA is just one more home for the homeless !

 

[BigWill]

This isn’t protest.

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Basic tactics; "Secure the high ground " !

 

[Uncoach]

Lots of people were really dumb about immigration well before Trump 2017.

 

[Uncoach]

I don't think it's the only reason.

 

[BigWill]

We're almost # 1 !

Rifle's home State Colorado, rates # 2 in this nationwide survey !

Louisiana is # 1.

NJ rates much lower than I thought at # 6 !

The Study ? Road Rage !

 

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[Uncoach]

This is truly insurrection talk.

 

[bucshon]

Some expertise based on over 20 years of experience. The deployment of National Guard troops does not escalate a riot situation. Just the opposite.

Unlike a lot of civilian law enforcement, NG troops are trained to de-escalate volatile situations. They focus on protecting property, not engaging or provoking protesters. In fact, part of their mission is to protect the peaceful protesters. They are trained to use the bare minimum of force necessary. Any engagement would be because a rioter crossed a line of protection or attacked Soldiers, but these troops are not conducting any offensive operations. In rare circumstances in which violence has taken hold, they will disperse a crowd if necessary.

LA officials should be thanking the NG. Their presence allows the LAPD to focus on law enforcement and apprehending those who break the law. (NG soldiers cannot arrest anyone). Instead, California is suing the Trump administration for federalizing the Guard.

 

[stoneaxe27]

Some expertise based on over 20 years of experience. The deployment of National Guard troops does not escalate a riot situation. Just the opposite.

Unlike a lot of civilian law enforcement, NG troops are trained to de-escalate volatile situations. They focus on protecting property, not engaging or provoking protesters. In fact, part of their mission is to protect the peaceful protesters. They are trained to use the bare minimum of force necessary. Any engagement would be because a rioter crossed a line of protection or attacked Soldiers, but these troops are not conducting any offensive operations. In rare circumstances in which violence has taken hold, they will disperse a crowd if necessary.

LA officials should be thanking the NG. Their presence allows the LAPD to focus on law enforcement and apprehending those who break the law. (NG soldiers cannot arrest anyone). Instead, California is suing the Trump administration for federalizing the Guard.

The protests may have been peaceful at first, but it is hard to see what law enforcement could have done that would lead to burning cars. The peaceful protesters were replaced with those that had burning and violence planned. The protesters lose public sympathy when they start burning cars and dropping rocks on cops heads, and especially waiving the Mexican flag.

 

[BigWill]

Would it not be very difficult for a typical Medicare patient to defraud the system without a corrupt Healthcare organization? Doesn't almost all Medicare fraud originate through corrupt Healthcare organizations?

I think that is his point. I don't have Medicare so I don't know.

2 for 2 !

He doesn't know, and you don't know !

Brothers in knowledge.

 

[BigWill]

Some expertise based on over 20 years of experience. The deployment of National Guard troops does not escalate a riot situation. Just the opposite.

Unlike a lot of civilian law enforcement, NG troops are trained to de-escalate volatile situations. They focus on protecting property, not engaging or provoking protesters. In fact, part of their mission is to protect the peaceful protesters. They are trained to use the bare minimum of force necessary. Any engagement would be because a rioter crossed a line of protection or attacked Soldiers, but these troops are not conducting any offensive operations. In rare circumstances in which violence has taken hold, they will disperse a crowd if necessary.

LA officials should be thanking the NG. Their presence allows the LAPD to focus on law enforcement and apprehending those who break the law. (NG soldiers cannot arrest anyone). Instead, California is suing the Trump administration for federalizing the Guard.

The Police/NG "law enforcement" appears to be very haphazard and disjointed ! To say the least !
To fail to extinguish car fires, is the height of local irresponsibility !

I wonder who has taken overall command of the riots and IF the various enforcement has any encompassing communications available to order units to "hot" spots ?

NJ spent several millions of dollars a few years ago on the State wide radio communication capabilities. Every radio has a SPECIFIC channel that can communicate with EVERY radio.

J 6'ers are still blaming Trump for the use of NG or lack of same. (see Nancy.)
Now the Callie are blaming Trump for UTILIZING NG ! (see Article 10.)

 

[bucshon]

The Police/NG "law enforcement" appears to be very haphazard and disjointed ! To say the least !
To fail to extinguish car fires, is the height of local irresponsibility !

Stifling rules of engagement that put both the public and police officers in mortal danger.

 

[tjfleck6]

The protests may have been peaceful at first, but it is hard to see what law enforcement could have done that would lead to burning cars. The peaceful protesters were replaced with those that had burning and violence planned. The protesters lose public sympathy when they start burning cars and dropping rocks on cops heads, and especially waiving the Mexican flag.

When you have lost Stone, you have lost. My only guess is they are hoping for one of these paid agitators to die attacking pubic safety/NG/USMC personnel so they can blame "Trump".

Invaders love to raise their flag when they conquer new territory.

The Steady Demise of the Democrat Party Goes Hand in Hand with Street Chaos

Of course the global left know the street riots over highly unpopular illegal immigration hurt them; they’re looking for us to make a crucial mistake impacting hearts and minds.

skeshel.substack.com

 

[BigWill]

Stifling rules of engagement that put both the public and police officers in mortal danger.

I agree most whole heartedly !

In the old age of detain/arrest criminals law enforcement would have several school busses repainted and with barred windows for holding large numbers of persons under arrest ! Bus filled, off to be processed under arrest. Next bus up same thing.

 

[bung23]

Enough Is Enough: Hundreds of Marines Move In on LA Riots

President Donald Trump has reportedly ordered the U.S. Marines into Los Angeles to protect federal properties.

www.westernjournal.com

CNN stoking the fire. What scumbags.

 

[bung23]

This isn’t protest.

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I hope those violent rioters get the full force of our law enforcement

 

[BigWill]

More Joey favoritism exposed !

Along with the "Quiet Ski" program with the TSA for domestic flights, that found exactly ZERO persons since it's inception in 2010, that cost $ 200,000,000 million a year ! Their most notable person surveilled, Gabbard .

There was a sister program called "Silent Partner" for international flights. This program found the Husband of a NH, US Senator, who travelled several flights with a person who attracted the TSA idiots. He was subjected to 'enhanced" security ! The other person has a foreign sounding name ! She happens to be a US Citizen, a resident of NH, and a licensed practicing Attorney.

When the US Senator called to complain, they were immediately removed from Security enhancements !

Although the records are maintained in the TSA database for 15 years !

 

[dtrain79]

Some expertise based on over 20 years of experience. The deployment of National Guard troops does not escalate a riot situation. Just the opposite.

Unlike a lot of civilian law enforcement, NG troops are trained to de-escalate volatile situations. They focus on protecting property, not engaging or provoking protesters. In fact, part of their mission is to protect the peaceful protesters. They are trained to use the bare minimum of force necessary. Any engagement would be because a rioter crossed a line of protection or attacked Soldiers, but these troops are not conducting any offensive operations. In rare circumstances in which violence has taken hold, they will disperse a crowd if necessary.

LA officials should be thanking the NG. Their presence allows the LAPD to focus on law enforcement and apprehending those who break the law. (NG soldiers cannot arrest anyone). Instead, California is suing the Trump administration for federalizing the Guard.

Not going to add much in the way of commentary, but I agree with this. Also, let's be real, rioters tend to show more respect for the military (one of the most respected institutions in the USA) than local police and/or federal authorities, who are certainly more divisive here.

I do not favor sending in active duty Marines for either (a) a show of force or (b) in a bizarro world attempt at escalation of what is simply not a critical situation. To put things in context, more people died in the King riots than were arrested in connection with the street protests/riots over the weekend.

 

[bung23]

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/gabe-evans-house-resolution/2025/06/09/id/1214235

It’s just who these despicable people are…

 

[Uncoach]

This slipped underneath yhe radar yesterday.

 

[Uncoach]

This guy was doxed, too. He got a taste of his own medicine.

 

[ILisBest]

 

[Uncoach]

 

[Uncoach]

Yes, Senator. Now your Democrat insurrectionists are going to fly the US flag for better optics.

 

[Uncoach]

Interesting deep dive here.

 

[BigWill]

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Never let a riot or the burning of rubber tires get in the way of grabbing some "free" stuff !

 

[Uncoach]

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