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YOU are wrong, let it go. The money gets paid to the providers.

That’s what you said when I proved you wrong about schools being closed for 2 years. I work in this world every day. Individuals can absolutely commit Medicare fraud. It happens regularly.

Look up any article on Medicare fraud and it will mention patients as one of the groups that commits fraud. They aren’t making that up.

Attorney groups don’t spend time on something that never happens.
 
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$60-100 billion of fraudulent payments per year across Medicare and Medicaid. Billing for services or supplies never provided, upcoding, providing unnecessary treatments, kickback schemes, and identity theft to file fraudulent claims....all pretty common. Crooked providers and middlemen make the big money, but fraudulent recipients are in on it too. The providers pay them in cash for their cooperation.
 
$60-100 billion of fraudulent payments per year across Medicare and Medicaid. Billing for services or supplies never provided, upcoding, providing unnecessary treatments, kickback schemes, and identity theft to file fraudulent claims....all pretty common. Crooked providers and middlemen make the big money, but fraudulent recipients are in on it too. The providers pay them in cash for their cooperation.

It’s a little concerning that a well educated attorney can’t put this stuff together.

This is very well known, by anyone that knows anything about Medicare.
 
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It’s a little concerning that a well educated attorney can’t put this stuff together.

This is very well known, by anyone that knows anything about Medicare.
very well known baloney. the real fraud millions and perhaps billions are by the providers. are there a few individuals that get a few bucks as kick back? Maybe a few but inconsequential in the world of medicare/aid fraud. Very much more common in workers comp fraud and personal injury fraud. check your sources.
 
very well known baloney. the real fraud millions and perhaps billions are by the providers. are there a few individuals that get a few bucks as kick back? Maybe a few but inconsequential in the world of medicare/aid fraud. Very much more common in workers comp fraud and personal injury fraud. check your sources.

So we have gone from “it doesn’t happen” to “maybe a few”. You are one step from “ya it happens all the time, but it’s not something I care about.”

You already let us know you don’t know what you are talking about. Please don’t talk about sources.

It’s not a few. It’s not close to a few. You thought it was zero an hour ago.
 
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They have. A lot of fraud by doctors, insurance cos., and medical clinics, individual recipients can't commit fraud as they don't receive money, the Doctors/providers do.

Individuals also start BS companies to receive $ from Medicare. I’m not sure if you know this, but those companies funnel $ to the individuals that started them. So in the end, the individuals receive $.

You would think you would know this. Your part of the country is #1 for health care fraud.


 
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Oh stoned….. you guys are in SHAMBLES!
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The Dems are leading the Generic Congressional vote right now 46%-45%.
 
Individuals also start BS companies to receive $ from Medicare. I’m not sure if you know this, but those companies funnel $ to the individuals that started them. So in the end, the individuals receive $.

You would think you would know this. Your part of the country is #1 for health care fraud.


i don’t know what you are referring to as you must not have read the articles you posted. The fraud was all service providers, the “individuals” were all executives owners in f service provider companies
 
i don’t know what you are referring to as you must not have read the articles you posted. The fraud was all service providers, the “individuals” were all executives owners in f service provider companies

So if you are a business owner it doesn’t count? Wow, learned something new. Be a business owner, you can’t be held accountable for anything as an individual.

They didn’t provide any services. It was individuals that started fraudulent companies. People have done this because it has been easy to defraud Medicare.

Many people opened businesses connected to COVID, and got a ton of $ through Medicare. Individuals started those businesses. You really don’t think individual people scam Medicare? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard you say. All that $ ends up in the bank accounts of individuals. They just funnel it through businesses.
 
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Syed and Syed defrauded Medicare of hundreds of millions. Are they not individuals?
 
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No dopey, when society collapses because of the revolt against our government for preventing us from accessing our own money, there will be food lines for those who weren’t paying attention and cannot survive on their own. You will likely be one of those people.
Mary Anne's Parents used to put away various foodstuffs from canning and a root cellar. Her Dad would make wine and hard apple cider by the barrels. The wine was STRONG ! I'm sure it could have been used to strip varnish off furniture.

Canning is becoming a lost art for families today.

Purchased "Patriot" food packets that have various meals and have a 25 year shelf storage life.

BUT, I'm NOT paranoid !
 
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They have. A lot of fraud by doctors, insurance cos., and medical clinics, individual recipients can't commit fraud as they don't receive money, the Doctors/providers do.
Coverage applied for by individuals or families NOT eligible for benefits IS FRAUD !

In other words EVERY illegal immigrant !
 
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Patrick is an individual that defrauded Medicare.

Businesses can’t commit fraud without individuals pulling the strings.

These schemes are very common. It’s amazing that Dems went around saying there was little fraud for months. People know that isn’t true.

I believe Stone was referring to individuals that are Medicare patients not individuals that start healthcare companies.
 
I believe Stone was referring to individuals that are Medicare patients not individuals that start healthcare companies.

Ya, still wrong. He said it never happens. Then he said just a few. Stone doesn’t know what he is talking about.

Most of those “companies” give payments to individuals as part of their scam.

He needs to learn to sit out some of these convos. It just exposes how clueless he is.
 


Again with the “mostly peaceful” bullshit. In a way, I’m kinda glad these idiot Dem cities are getting trashed. Todays dems are the dumbest mf-ers on earth.
The LA Fire Department can't even put out car fires !

Just like structure fires in sections of LA & Malibu !

The NJSP Patrol vehicles had as standard issue in the trunks; 2 boxes road flares, 1 first aid kit, 2 25 pound fire extinguishers, 1 6 foot long pry bar, 1 oxygen tank with facemask, and 2 asbestos gloves. Eventually they mounted a Browning 12 gauge shotgun with # 4 buck shells !

That equipment was sufficient to put out car fires.

The Asbury Park riots in the 60's, a skirmish line of 20 Troopers was set up across a 4 lane road. Each Trooper armed with a shotgun with # 4 buck. Appropriate Judge labelled the riot as illegal. Trooper in charge got on a bull horn and ordered them to disperse. The rioters continued to advance. Troopers fired their shotguns as "skip shots" into the pavement, mowed down the front ranks of the rioters, all non fatal wounds below the knees. As late as the 70's how to skip shot was still taught at the Academy.
 
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So we have gone from “it doesn’t happen” to “maybe a few”. You are one step from “ya it happens all the time, but it’s not something I care about.”

You already let us know you don’t know what you are talking about. Please don’t talk about sources.

It’s not a few. It’s not close to a few. You thought it was zero an hour ago.
We know what you don't know !

The issue is you not knowing what you don't know !
 
I believe Stone was referring to individuals that are Medicare patients not individuals that start healthcare companies.


Read this article slowly. Note the part about them hiring individuals to help commit the fraud. The article highlights that many have left the country.

Think they did it for free, or do you think those individuals collected $ from Medicare? Think critically.
 
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