DumbCoach, I literally linked the actual crime statistics from the NYPD. What about that is an "estimate"?
If you guys want to call the FBI stats (which I've referenced but don't cite to) rough estimates, feel free. Because I don't need to engage with dumb arguments, I've just gone to individual departments and post their actual statistics. None of these are estimates.
Btw, crime has plummeted yet again in 2025. 2024 was a very good year of crime declines from 2023. 2023 was a solid year of declines from 2022. The years from 2020-22 were terrible for public safety.
It says a lot about your capabilities as a human being (underwhelming) when you just simply can't say "I was wrong when I argued about this for 18 months" when every bit of evidence has shown you were extraordinarily wrong.
You are absolutely entitled to your political opinions. You are not entitled to make up facts that don't exist. There are no facts supporting a claim that crime has gotten worse from 2023-25; it's been probably the largest recorded drop in crime since we kept records of this. We should all hope it continues.
Btw, drug ODs are dropping like a rock too. Because much of the 2020-22 chaos was induced by Covid, which wreaked havoc on the normal order. I told you this was all coming, but you were too wrapped up in the politics of it all to deal in reality on the issue (and as a general proposition, I'm fine with Trump running on the claim that Biden didn't handle chaos in large part created by the left's fetishization of the George Floyd situation and terrible Covid restriction policies).