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Can you expand on this? My soon to be DIL says all of her college roommates were on some kind of prescribed meds for mental health.
A lot of shady doctors out there that will help people qualify for mental health claims, who probably (in some cases definitely) shouldn’t qualify.
Doctors overprescribing mental health meds is another problem. Obviously there is some overlap, but 2 separate problems.
COVID really blew this thing up. A lot of people realized they could go to a doctor and claim they were depressed, and they wouldn’t have to work. They would get paid and have job protection. Good intentions when we decided to cover mental health, but it is very easily abused. Telehealth, another thing with good intentions, made it even easier to commit fraud.
Private insurance carriers investigate this too. They end up investigating a lot of their own employees because people at insurance companies realized how easy it is to get a claim. I had two account managers go out on claim in 2021. Neither needed to. They did enjoy their summer off though.
Colorado is less than 2% of the USA population. What is the number nationally?
Again, this is just a small piece of the fraud, and the most easily identified. Probably need to go digging for more.
106 defendants indicted in Social Security disability fraud costing federal taxpayers hundreds of millions
The four principal defendants allegedly directed hundreds of SDDI applicants, including many retirees of the New York Police and Fire Departments, to lie about their psychiatric conditions in order to obtain benefits to which they were not entitled.www.ice.gov
This single indictment highlighted hundreds of millions in fraud among a relatively small # of people. The program has been heavily reduced by fraud.
Lying about psychiatric conditions is probably the easiest way to quality.
If Colorado was 1.5% of population, then nationally it would be 450 million. Which would be an error rate of less than 0.1%. Doesn’t look like substantial fraud.
Sure, if you look at %. But sometimes people should look at the actual #.
$450 million is a lot of $. That’s substantial fraud. What if other states are worse than Colorado?
The people attacking that girl (and the guy) on social media showed how terrible they are.
Very easily could have caused them to kill themselves. Feel bad for both of them.
EJ Lilly announces $ 27,000,000,000 Billion in new USA construction because of Trump. 10,000 construction and 2,000 Lilly jobs.
Want some Math ?
Nor the deadly evacuation of abandoning Afghanistan.
WITHOUT Trump, Bondi, Patel you would be still howling in the mountains !
4 years of Criminal actions can't be fully investigated in less than a month !
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He has said, to be more accurate, he will not touch SS nor Medicare, EXCEPT to root out FRAUD !You just don't get. Trump has said he won't touch Social Security and Medicare. These are two of the biggest components of the federal budget. If benefits are not to be cut then payroll or income taxes will have to be raised to make these programs solvent. By 2035, Social Security will not be able to fully fund its payments and all recipients will take an almost 20% reduction in benefits if taxes are not raised. In addition, the longer you wait to fix the problem the worse it will get.
Will Social Security run out? Here's what could happen to your benefits
The 2024 report from the Social Security trustee board indicates that, at the current rate, full benefits will no longer be available in 2035.www.cnbc.com
Jeff just wants us to pay more taxes. Fraud doesn’t matter. $450 mil can do a lot of things.
It is a combination of errors and fraud. Percentages are the relevant figures to gain an indication of how a system is working. There is a cost involved in further reducing the error rate. One would have to look at the cost/benefit of further reducing the error rate. Sometimes it isn’t worth the cost.
I don’t think we are going to agree on much about this topic if you think losing a billion $ every 2 years to paying SS to dead people is not substantial. It is. It’s also an indicator there is a lot of other waste out there. This is just payments to people that aren’t alive, Jeff.
OVER 2,000 pages of investigations along with audio AND visual evidence were ORDERED by Bondi to be delivered to her office in DC by 8:00 AM TODAY (Friday).
I've waited for the Brandons to do ANYTHING.
I can wait till she gets a chance to read/listen/watch what was delivered 2 1/2 hours ago !
Jeff is like the coach who strictly runs his operation on analytics. No real feel for the game. Quite costly in the end.
Would it make sense to spend 2 billion to eliminate 1 billion in waste and fraud?
Fraud is RAMPANT in society today.
A friend who retired First Class Detective (the highest Detective rank = to a uniform Captain !) Now works for a major life insurance company and spends ALL his time investigating Life Policies claims !
As you know I live W of WP, so the 5 + drive one way isn't worth it.
I can wait till various news pundits pontificate !
Are you under the impression that we aren’t already spending a shit load of $ investigating it?
I do believe that it is worth the cost to go after criminals. As I showed the $ can pile up if they go uncharged.
I already showed an article where 106 defendants got hundreds of millions by committing fraud. Yes, I think we should go after people for fraud and penalize them heavily.
You do have a good argument for getting rid of laws completely. People don’t follow laws and it is expensive to go after them. I don’t think that’s where the majority of the country wants to go. Identify the criminals, penalize them heavily, and cut off the never ending fraudulent payments.
This is feelings over logic. The first reason I know that is TDS old poster with another new name liked your post. Trump was the one wealthy person who actually was helpful with the original Epstein investigation. Of course he must want to keep everything secret. That makes zero sense. Second, like the tweet asks, why aren’t you pissed at SDNY? They are the ones withholding the files/information. Did you think Trump could wave a magic wand and get rid of Deep State (the people who have been acting as a government unaccountable to the government elected by the people)?
Spending 2 billion to cut down 1 billion every year going forward would absolutely be worth it.
Of course, they are going to find well over a billion. We are just talking about $ going to dead people. The real big # is in disability fraud.
I am not talking about the costs involved in the prosecution of criminals. I am talking about system and personel costs needed to upgrade a system to reduce the fraud/error rate. Does it make sense to spend an additional 2 billion per year in system costs to eliminate a billion per year on fraud?
Waste and fraud should be reduced but it will not be a panacea to balance the budget.
Dems in "action" !
How much time has been wasted in the Dems wanting TV time in the A & C of Trumps appointments ?
Last I heard it was 100 % of people to their positions.
Yet you have poor guys like Rifle on the edge of his seat waiting to learn more about a guy DEAD for YEARS !
I think in the 4+ years Trump has been in office, he could have helped expose/charge some of the human traffickers that worked with Epstein.
Nothing has happened. He campained on exposing it on day 1. Well that didn’t happen, and yesterday was a massive fail. I don’t believe Trump cares about this at all, but he knows people do.
The Deep State has never been stronger. I thought Trump was going to drain it starting 9 years ago.
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Inquiring minds want to know. Murders by family members or fake deaths?
More feelings over logic. His first FBI Director actually spied on his campaign. The new one he installed was a POS who kept the status quo of unaccountability. Please explain how Trump got anything at all done in his first administration.
Where have they said it would cost $2 billion a year?
Again, if they look into disability fraud, we aren’t going to be talking about 1 billion. It will be billions.
Yes, it’s worth shutting down annual fraud payments.
It appears the White House visits by the UK PM and Z-man are dominating the news.
Ending a 4 year old war seems more important today !
Except to Rifle !
Easy solution: Order 20 % less than you normally use.
Medicare Fraud Prevention Week | SSA
Did you know that Medicare fraud costs Americans an estimated $60 billion per year? It also affects Medicare beneficiaries in terms of time, stress, and health. Learn how to protect yourself and…
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Our own govt says there is 60 billion in Medicare fraud each year. Yep, worth the $ to clean this up.
Let's say that a third of disability claims are fraudulent, that is 5% of the budget. Eliminating the fraud is great, but tax increases and or benefit cuts will still be needed to make Social Security solvent. The idea that all is needed to solve the government's financial problems is waste and fraud reduction is pure fantasy.
Office of the Inspector General
The Office of the Inspector General is directly responsible for meeting the statutory mission of promoting economy, efficiency, and effectiveness in the administration of Social Security Administration programs and operations and to prevent and detect fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement in...
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SSA says they are sending out about 10 billion a year in improper payments.
So ya, spend 2 billion to bring that # down. No question.
Use Math, it is your friend !
$ 6 million for Colo. Divide Colo population into $ 6 million = $ fraud per person. Now times that $ # by US Total population = estimated $ fraud in ENTIRE USA.
NOW we're talking numbers ! Even your estimate of 880 million is big.
I’ve said it before, reduce the fraud and waste and then tell us how much we need to make up. People will be more open to that conversation.
Telling people we should give more $ and just be OK with billions in fraud…nope, not interested in that conversation.
Given that Medicare spends about 900 billion a year. 60 billion is a big number that should be addressed. The percentage is much too high.Medicare Fraud Prevention Week | SSA
Did you know that Medicare fraud costs Americans an estimated $60 billion per year? It also affects Medicare beneficiaries in terms of time, stress, and health. Learn how to protect yourself and…blog.ssa.gov
Our own govt says there is 60 billion in Medicare fraud each year. Yep, worth the $ to clean this up.
It is sad to hear that story, but not surprising. A lot of these kids are getting put on treatments that they will be on forever. Life long $ makers for the pharmaceutical industry.
