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[rillaman]

Anyone with some knowledge of economics would predict the poverty rate would be lower after a tax cut.
Tax cuts stimulate the economy just like increased government spending. It is Econ 101.
Still does not address the fact that massive cuts in spending coupled with tax cuts is a transfer of wealth from the poor to the well-off.

Yet everyone on the left said that it hurts the poor. It lifted a significant % of the country out of the poor bucket.

But ya, let’s increase taxes, make more people poor again, and let’s give more $ to the govt.

Why would you keep repeating that it only helped the rich when there are statistics showing it lifted the working poor too?

 

[Uncoach]

Ah yes. Just a drop in the bucket. No reason to audit these agencies.

USAID Drove Trump-Russia Collusion Hoax

The US government-run Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP) fueled key Russiagate narrative

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[ILisBest]

He is just tired after reading every bill line by line.

Reading??

Heck, they all track line by line expenditures as they happen. No need for Musk!

 

[rillaman]

Except no one knows who Trump traded. 😛

It will be tough to beat the Merchant of Death.

 

[ILisBest]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/12/trump-says-interest-rates-should-be-lowered-to-go-hand-in-hand-with-his-tariffs.html

What a boob. Trump wants lower interest rates with tariffs. High inflation here it comes!

Spending raises inflation. The Biden damage will not be solved overnight especially when your side is trying to stop Trump from cutting....wait for it...SPENDING

 

[ILisBest]

Anyone with some knowledge of economics would predict the poverty rate would be lower after a tax cut.
Tax cuts stimulate the economy just like increased government spending. It is Econ 101.
Still does not address the fact that massive cuts in spending coupled with tax cuts is a transfer of wealth from the poor to the well-off. There is a post in this thread that calls the poor the parasite class. It acknowledges how the poor will be hurt by the spending cuts.
Here's a possible new MAGA slogan "Screw the poor as long as I get mine."
Let's see, Trump plans to:

• Cut government spending that affects the poor primarily.
• Eliminate enforcement of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
• Eliminate enforcement of laws that protect consumers against illegal financial practices.

Trump will certainly make America great for those who are well-off. Much of what Trump will do will benefit me. However, I don't need to get a few extra bucks off the backs of the poor.

What a basket of contradictions this post is. I do not even know where to start.

The US government spending billions overseas does not stimulate the US economy but does negatively affect inflation that you are against 🤪

Hey, remember that time President Biden spent over a trillion dollars+ in the name of "Inflation Reduction Act"? It made a lot of sense 👀

 

[rillaman]

Anyone with some knowledge of economics would predict the poverty rate would be lower after a tax cut.
Tax cuts stimulate the economy just like increased government spending. It is Econ 101.
Still does not address the fact that massive cuts in spending coupled with tax cuts is a transfer of wealth from the poor to the well-off. There is a post in this thread that calls the poor the parasite class. It acknowledges how the poor will be hurt by the spending cuts.
Here's a possible new MAGA slogan "Screw the poor as long as I get mine."
Let's see, Trump plans to:

• Cut government spending that affects the poor primarily.
• Eliminate enforcement of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
• Eliminate enforcement of laws that protect consumers against illegal financial practices.

Trump will certainly make America great for those who are well-off. Much of what Trump will do will benefit me. However, I don't need to get a few extra bucks off the backs of the poor.

Most states have a similar department, so the CFPB was redundant with those state plans. Probably the case with a lot of state/federal departments.

The working poor like his tax cuts, they helped some of them move up the ladder. I know that is something that many people don't believe in, but it happened.

My Dad is a CPA. He volunteers every year to help the working poor do their taxes, at no cost. He said the tax cuts have helped probably 90% of the people that he does taxes for.

 

[ILisBest]

 

[rillaman]

Guaranteed student loans increased the cost of college significantly, and is the #3 cause of debt in this country.

Tear it down to the studs. What we are doing isn’t working.

 

[rillaman]

Except no one knows who Trump traded. 😛

 

[JeffT818]

Yet everyone on the left said that it hurts the poor. It lifted a significant % of the country out of the poor bucket.

But ya, let’s increase taxes, make more people poor again, and let’s give more $ to the govt.

Why would you keep repeating that it only helped the rich when there are statistics showing it lifted the working poor too?

Cutting federal program spending impacts primarily the poor while tax cuts benefit everyone who pays federal income taxes with the rich benefiting the most.

A 2 trillion reduction in programs paired with a 2 trillion tax cut will hurt the poor. The poor will lose more than they gain on a macro level. It is basic math.

Now if you want to make the argument that the poor are just lazy parasites that will work more without federal programs that assist them, that is a way to go. I don’t think it is true but it is an argument that I cannot refute with certainty.

 

[JeffT818]

Spending raises inflation. The Biden damage will not be solved overnight especially when your side is trying to stop Trump from cutting....wait for it...SPENDING

Tax cuts can raise inflation as well.

 

[ILisBest]

Tax cuts raise inflation as well. No different than government spending in regards to inflation.

Remember when Trump passed the tax cuts? Did we see massive inflation like we saw with Biden and no tax cuts?

 

[JeffT818]

Remember when Trump passed the tax cuts? Did we see massive inflation like we saw with Biden and no tax cuts?

Just want to forget the inflationary impact of Covid? Go ahead.

I did change my post regarding tax cuts and inflation. Tax cuts are not always inflationary especially if they benefit the wealthy. The wealthy will save and not spend the money.

 

[stoneaxe27]

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There goes the lies of the Trump spokesperson and Rubio. Plus they are reporting that he sold out Ukraine before the negotiations begin. Art of the Deal.

 

[rillaman]

There goes the lies of the Trump spokesperson and Rubio. Plus they are reporting that he sold out Ukraine before the negotiations begin. Art of the Deal.

We sold out Ukraine a long time ago. About 40k died during the Biden era.

If Trump is negotiating to end the war, that's a great thing. I know Dems won't be happy though.

 

[stoneaxe27]

It will be tough to beat the Merchant of Death.

It is not who was traded, it is the Trump Admin. and Rubio saying no one was traded. I think when it comes to trades you give up any one regardless of how evil. Why waste our time and money holding them. Get the American out.

 

[tjfleck6]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/12/trump-says-interest-rates-should-be-lowered-to-go-hand-in-hand-with-his-tariffs.html

What a boob. Trump wants lower interest rates with tariffs. High inflation here it comes!

Yeah - what a moron. I guess true morons voted for record government spending in 2020 and then doubled-down on it in 2024, right Jeff?

Hey - maybe try something new which has never been tried before - cutting government spending and interest rates at the same time. I know you want to raise taxes and cut DOGE as a good Democrat.

 

[tjfleck6]

Except no one knows who Trump traded. 😛

Correct, we don't know what Trump threatened or promised. We do know that Biden traded the "Merchant of Death" for an anti-American basketball player who willingly broke Russian law. That makes the Luka Docic trade look reasonable in comparison.

 

[stoneaxe27]

Correct, we don't know what Trump threatened or promised. We do know that Biden traded the "Merchant of Death" for an anti-American basketball player who willingly broke Russian law. That makes the Luka Docic trade look reasonable in comparison.

Read my post above. It is not whataboutism regarding who, it is that they feel the need to lie about it as if Russia just released him because Trump is so feared.

 

[Uncoach]

 

[tjfleck6]

Anyone with some knowledge of economics would predict the poverty rate would be lower after a tax cut.
Tax cuts stimulate the economy just like increased government spending. It is Econ 101.
Still does not address the fact that massive cuts in spending coupled with tax cuts is a transfer of wealth from the poor to the well-off. There is a post in this thread that calls the poor the parasite class. It acknowledges how the poor will be hurt by the spending cuts.
Here's a possible new MAGA slogan "Screw the poor as long as I get mine."
Let's see, Trump plans to:

• Cut government spending that affects the poor primarily.
• Eliminate enforcement of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
• Eliminate enforcement of laws that protect consumers against illegal financial practices.

Trump will certainly make America great for those who are well-off. Much of what Trump will do will benefit me. However, I don't need to get a few extra bucks off the backs of the poor.

Jeff cares about the poor as he flees Illinois. That's rich.

Jeff, the so called lower classes voted for Donald J. Trump because 1) They liked his first 4 years 2) The last 4 years under your guy Biden absolutely destroyed them.

Since you are Mr. Econ 101 you know that deficit spending / corruption on a massive scale (during the Biden years) led to huge inflation which is a Giant Tax on the people you profess to now care about. As Mr. Econ 101 you also know that 15 Million illegals granted entry into this country increases the labor pool for the lowest paying jobs in America thereby supressing income for those who need it most.

So, cut the crap Jeff, you voted for the destruction of America twice and now call the working class people who voted for Trump stupid. They know a hell of a lot more than you.

 

[Uncoach]

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This is how mindless willful idiots get programmed. All they hear is "constitutional crisis" from their media and lying politicans they voted for and it gets them raging. That group has become smaller and smaller as legacy media crumbles.

 

[tjfleck6]

Read my post above. It is not whataboutism regarding who, it is that they feel the need to lie about it as if Russia just released him because Trump is so feared.

So, since you know it is a lie, you must also know the terms of the "trade". Please inform us. Otherwise, you are just making stuff up and that is out of character for you.

 

[rillaman]

Read my post above. It is not whataboutism regarding who, it is that they feel the need to lie about it as if Russia just released him because Trump is so feared.

It took 1 day to find out who they traded

 

[Uncoach]

Except no one knows who Trump traded. 😛

I can guarantee whoever was traded isn't remotely close to the one Biden traded for Griner. That's why the X post was stated the way it was. This will be a standard run of the mill operative who was caught.

 

[stoneaxe27]

It took 1 day to find out who they traded

You knew that would be the case, so even dumber of them to deny a quid pro quo yesterday.

 

[stoneaxe27]

I can guarantee whoever was traded isn't remotely close to the one Biden traded for Griner. That's why the X post was stated the way it was. This will be a standard run of the mill operative who was caught.

You guys think identical.

 

[Uncoach]

Elon really is a genius. Most true geniuses have their quirks.

 

[Uncoach]

This will help the US bigly. OTOH, if Jeff had his way, we would be stuck with the space cadet.

 

[Uncoach]

 

[Uncoach]

 

[Uncoach]

 

[Uncoach]

Pocohantas just got a smack down. Britt is a sharp cookie!

 

[Uncoach]

 

[rillaman]

You knew that would be the case, so even dumber of them to deny a quid pro quo yesterday.

Rubio says American Marc Fogel freed from Russia due to 'strength' of Trump | Fox News

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that Marc Fogel, an American who had been detained in Russia, was freed because the U.S. has a "strong president."

www.foxnews.com

Where did they say the gave up nothing?

He just freed an American that was in a Russian prison for the last few years, and you are nitpicking because they are taking some credit.

Another 20% position

 

[Uncoach]

This is the real reason why churches are in decline.

 

[JeffT818]

Yeah - what a moron. I guess true morons voted for record government spending in 2020 and then doubled-down on it in 2024, right Jeff?

Hey - maybe try something new which has never been tried before - cutting government spending and interest rates at the same time. I know you want to raise taxes and cut DOGE as a good Democrat.

Trump wants to pair tariffs with interest rate cuts.

You are talking about reduced government spending and interest rate cuts which has nothing to do with the article.

Blather on!

 

[OhioIllini]

You knew that would be the case, so even dumber of them to deny a quid pro quo yesterday.

In the quote from Trump I listened to last night, he confirmed the US gave up something to secure Fogel's release and also said it was a much better deal than was made for previous releases of Americans.

Of course we now know it was Russia's bitcoin founder... not a murderer.

 

[ILisBest]

You knew that would be the case, so even dumber of them to deny a quid pro quo yesterday.

Quid pro quo?