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Sure Jan, whatever you say. Governor Newsome has just been extremely unlucky operating a state with tremendous tourism and natural resources. 👀

Not to mention Silicon Valley, Hollywood, Disney, Lockheed Martin, and the natural location for countless military bases. To f### this up you have to be a Democrat like Jeff or Stone.
 
You mean like DeSantis and the Hurricane devastation of Florida?

God Desantis is supposed to STOP a hurricane from forming and hitting Florida? His job was to be prepared for the aftermath and by all account he did great.

Fires happen too - that's why you do preventive burns removing fuel for said fires, have plenty of water available, firefighting crews (both HOT Shots and local), and dedicated teams like Texas Task Force 1 & 2. Instead, they have high speed rail to nowhere, countless illegals, homeless epidemics, high taxes, etc. You and Jeff support this, but oddly enough, you both live in Florida! Huh.

 
OK genius. Focus on the words “controlled burn”. Is that comparable in a wet and dry state? Even better one for you mental acuity. Explain how you have controlled burns in urban areas? Go check RW media to see what your response is.
They are called controlled burns for a reason, DIPPY. How do you have a controlled burn in an urban area - easy. It's just takes more money and time which is called preparation.

First, you create a buffer using heavy machinery. Second, you get really really good weather folks and choose a day without wind. You also have crews on hand to control the burn quickly before it gets out of hand.

It's not hard, but it is expensive. Somehow, it is much less expensive than multi-million dollar houses burning down, Teslas left to blow up in the street, etc.

And California is not a "Brown" state. Stupid, stupid comment. Nor is Florida a swamp. California is the agricultural capital of America. Florida has large ranches with big trees in mid-state Levy County and also south of Orlando. California has massive forests, large deserts, and HUGE mountains.
 
It's really amazing that Trump is still President-elect and has forced the 9 year Canadian Prime Minister to resign.....and....the current President to visit Europe and the Pope......and.....the current V-Pres on a world tour, sort of like the Mayor of LA to visit Ghana ! While her City burns....

How did that work out for Nero ?
 
If Florida is inundated with rain throughout the state, why would this public access park do proper controlled burns of the underbrush? You just said there was a difference. If it’s so difficult in FL to have a fire, why would they do the right thing for conservation versus the dry desert state that should be extra cautious and be diligent in preventing catastrophic fires as best as possible? Who is the simpleton? You just pwned yourself, you dipstick.
When we moved North from Jupiter Island back to NJ in September 1998, we travelled up I-95. Nothern Florida was on fire for hundreds of square miles.

Nature can be a bitch, planning for it takes long range thinking.

Pre-RDS !
 
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Not to mention Silicon Valley, Hollywood, Disney, Lockheed Martin, and the natural location for countless military bases. To f### this up you have to be a Democrat like Jeff or Stone.
And replacing about 1,000,000 tax paying Citizens by many more unknowns illegals that suck the remaining citizens dry via taxes !
 
They are called controlled burns for a reason, DIPPY. How do you have a controlled burn in an urban area - easy. It's just takes more money and time which is called preparation.

First, you create a buffer using heavy machinery. Second, you get really really good weather folks and choose a day without wind. You also have crews on hand to control the burn quickly before it gets out of hand.

It's not hard, but it is expensive. Somehow, it is much less expensive than multi-million dollar houses burning down, Teslas left to blow up in the street, etc.

And California is not a "Brown" state. Stupid, stupid comment. Nor is Florida a swamp. California is the agricultural capital of America. Florida has large ranches with big trees in mid-state Levy County and also south of Orlando. California has massive forests, large deserts, and HUGE mountains.
Here are some other instances of forest management that have nothing to do with political party and most to do with planning and forward thinking !

New York Adirondack Park. Largest park in US, larger than States ! Decade ago there were micro bursts of winds above 100 mph in sections of the Park with NOTHING (no residents) but trees, some first growth and some decades old timbered areas.
New York had no plan of what do due with the thousands of acres of downed logs/trees. Lumber companies lobbied to do nothing, as the logging of the trees would have lowered prices for cut timber in the USA. So NY did nothing, those downed trees have been rotting for decades ! Now they've become a forest fire hazard !

New Jersey; The Garden State. NJ and EVERY State have high tension electric transmission lines transmission lines for electricity. Those lines and towers crisscross multiple hundreds of miles everywhere the Utilities need to deliver power !

They are also used as FIRE BREAKS !

EVERY YEAR the electric utilities hire crews to clear the brush and low-lying plants from the width of the lines, on a schedule.
My 3 Nephews had their summer jobs every year to bushwhack a section scheduled. Plus the NJ Forest Service has vehicles with water tanks and hoses that patrol or answer calls to put out brush fires as they occur, windy or not !

The only issue was the brushers needed short hair so everyone could be checked for ticks as they went home !
 
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God Desantis is supposed to STOP a hurricane from forming and hitting Florida? His job was to be prepared for the aftermath and by all account he did great.

Fires happen too - that's why you do preventive burns removing fuel for said fires, have plenty of water available, firefighting crews (both HOT Shots and local), and dedicated teams like Texas Task Force 1 & 2. Instead, they have high speed rail to nowhere, countless illegals, homeless epidemics, high taxes, etc. You and Jeff support this, but oddly enough, you both live in Florida! Huh.

Keep repeating the RW and Trump generated BS. How repetitive and false. Try getting an original thought in your heads.
 
They are called controlled burns for a reason, DIPPY. How do you have a controlled burn in an urban area - easy. It's just takes more money and time which is called preparation.

First, you create a buffer using heavy machinery. Second, you get really really good weather folks and choose a day without wind. You also have crews on hand to control the burn quickly before it gets out of hand.

It's not hard, but it is expensive. Somehow, it is much less expensive than multi-million dollar houses burning down, Teslas left to blow up in the street, etc.

And California is not a "Brown" state. Stupid, stupid comment. Nor is Florida a swamp. California is the agricultural capital of America. Florida has large ranches with big trees in mid-state Levy County and also south of Orlando. California has massive forests, large deserts, and HUGE mountains.
Southern California is a desert, irrigated heavily to have grass and palm trees. Drought is a standard condition, like presently. The Agriculture in California is due to heavy irrigation, which why there are water uses battles between users and other states. Controlled burns in the most populated county in the US subject to drought? You guys are ignoramuses.
 
Northern CA is not a desert. The argument is that California worries about things that don’t matter that much, over getting water from the water rich parts of the state to the more drought stricken areas.

In this case, it looks like the state started prioritizing a handful of smelt over dozens of millions of Californians about 10 years ago.

Los Angeles receives water from several sources. The Los Angeles Aqueduct (LAA) supplied 15 percent of the water that was treated at the Los Angeles Aqueduct Filtration Plant. Purchased imported water from the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California (MWD) amounted to 73 percent. The remaining amount was sourced from local groundwater at 10 percent and recycled water at 2 percent.

Drinking Water and Your Health​

Map of California reflecting 15 percent of the water supply is sourced from the L.A. Aqueduct, 73 percent from the State Water Project and the Colorado River Aqueduct, 10 percent from Local Groundwater and 2 percent from recycled water

The sources of drinking water (both tap water and bottled water) include rivers, lakes, streams, ponds, reservoirs, springs, and wells. As water travels over the surface of the land or through the ground, it dissolves naturally-occurring minerals and, in some cases, radioactive material. It can pick up substances resulting from the presence of animals or from human activity.

Drinking water, including bottled water, may reasonably be expected to contain at least small amounts of some contaminants. The presence of contaminants does not necessarily indicate that water poses a health risk. More information about contaminants and potential health effects can be obtained by calling the U.S. EPA’s Safe Drinking Water Hotline (800) 426-4791.

GOSH, you are really smart, too bad California didn't think like you.​

 
I woke up to 5 locations around LA on fire, plus stories that there were a few spots where they extinguished small additional fires. Why all the locations? They are far apart.

1) The LA fire chief was asked in their news conference today about the start of the Palisades fire. Apparently neighbors noticed it coming from the back yard of a home. The fire chief said he didn't know but they have arson investigators looking into it. Sounds like they have a good starting place.

2) in Maui they think downed power lines sparked that fire and it was a high wind situation like LA.

3) Fox interviewed a resident who lost his home and he said days before this disaster the forecast was for a very high wind event. (In FL they prepare for severe weather)

LA/Calif were totally unprepared. I hope in the postmortem they actually share the truth about what caused these fires. If it was downed power lines that is a terrible condemnation of the LA leadership -- they knew how strong the winds could be and did nothing. If it was bad actors, I hope they share that. It is almost impossible to prevent bad actors (or accidents) starting fires but knowing this might spur LA/California to start managing their vegetation and water resources before catastrophes. And this is a catastrophe. SMH
 
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I woke up to 5 locations around LA on fire, plus stories that there were a few spots where they extinguished small additional fires. Why all the locations? They are far apart.

1) The LA fire chief was asked in their news conference today about the start of the Palisades fire. Apparently neighbors noticed it coming from the back yard of a home. The fire chief said he didn't know but they have arson investigators looking into it. Sounds like they have a good starting place.

2) in Maui they think downed power lines sparked that fire and it was a high wind situation like LA.

3) Fox interviewed a resident who lost his home and he said days before this disaster the forecast was for a very high wind event. (In FL they prepare for severe weather)

LA/Calif were totally unprepared. I hope in the postmortem they actually share the truth about what caused these fires. If it was downed power lines that is a terrible condemnation of the LA leadership -- they knew how strong the winds could be and did nothing. If it was bad actors, I hope they share that. It is almost impossible to prevent bad actors (or accidents) starting fires but knowing this might spur LA/California to start managing their vegetation and water resources before catastrophes. And this is a catastrophe. SMH
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Southern California is a desert, irrigated heavily to have grass and palm trees. Drought is a standard condition, like presently. The Agriculture in California is due to heavy irrigation, which why there are water uses battles between users and other states. Controlled burns in the most populated county in the US subject to drought? You guys are ignoramuses.
Drought in Los Angeles is a seasonal, not perpetual, condition. One of the heaviest thunderstorms I've seen in a while was right around LAX. There are opportunities for controlled burns every spring.
 
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