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Sam Zell started with nothing and was worth over 5 billion. He lived like a billionaire. Every year he would have a birthday party for 150 of his closest friends. One year he had the Eagles play at his party. Another year Aretha Franklin. He also had three wives. Most billionaires live like billionaires with the exception of Warren Buffet. I don't get the motivation to portray Trump as some great businessman when he is not.
I don't know Sam Zell. I just know you can't fairly compare two models and only apply expenses to one of the models. If I remember correctly you are in the accounting field, so I imagine you get that.

The S&P outperforming Trump appears to currently be false.
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The question is whether Trump a good businessman.

If he can't beat the S&P, then I believe he is not a very sharp businessman. I get he likes the attention and that is his motivation to work. Just because he likes to work does not mean he is any good at it.
He is a billionaire . I am fairly certain he didn’t start out as one. He has lost net worth for political reasons. This is classic TDS that can’t seem to separate emotional rage from rational thought.

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Easy to claim from the cheap seats. What’s your brand name? How many golf courses do you own? Any gold staircases? Realistically until he ran for President he was a rock star to many people, including democrats. I never cared for him, but it’s BS to claim he should have done this or that.
I have never posted anything specific about what Trump should have done or not done. Rock star? Trump was never seen as an astute businessman by the financial markets. My only point is that Trump is not a very good businessman.
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Sam Zell is great. Sam Zell supported Donald Trump and much preferred Trumps policies to Obama’s policies. You should try to be more like Sam.

You, Train, and Icky have a daddy problem. You have obvious disdain for Trump because he had a successful parent. It is just one of the realities of life that some people have a built in advantage. Train thinks the rich kids get into the top schools on merit. It has nothing to do with their name or a donation. The rest of us know better.

By all accounts, Trump's dad was a terrible father. I truly feel sorry for Trump in that respect. It is not Trump's fault that he is the way he is; he is the product of crappy parents.

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I have pointed out the flaw in this numerous times. They do not account for a guy that flies around in a jumbo jet and lives the lifestyle of a billionaire. They do not account for divorce settlements. They just assume an inheritance that was never touched and compounded. That model works only in fantasyland.

Even with all of that said, he outperformed the S&P according to Forbes until about 2021.

People are easily sold some nonsense

I know when my net worth is calculated, I get a value for all of my restricted stock. So, if we add in his restricted stock he is probably up again. Subtract from the S&P model his high cost of living and settlements and it is probably not very close.

So, this liberal charade is mostly bogus.
Sam Zell started with nothing and was worth over 5 billion. He lived like a billionaire. Every year he would have a birthday party for 150 of his closest friends. One year he had the Eagles play at his party. Another year Aretha Franklin. He also had three wives. Most billionaires live like billionaires with the exception of Warren Buffet. I don't get the motivation to portray Trump as some great businessman when he is not.
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I didn’t say his job was pathetic. I have friends in law enforcement. I simply said I could do it in 6 months, which is true.

I’ve got a great life. I’m quite happy. I use curse words to get the point across, not because I’m angry. It appears to have worked because you’ve written me several love letters now.

Get some sleep. You wasted a Friday night ranting about your orange calf and a vaccine from 3 years ago.
Icky is a happy guy.

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You are a broken human being who isn’t enough of a man to defend himself if you talked this shit in person.

Again, I don’t know why you are broken, but you are.

My parents are far more successful than you too. As am I. Which is the cherry of top of this shit sundae of your idiotic post.
You don’t know much. Book smart? Yes. Common sense? Not much. I’ve seen it a lot.

Frankly, your desperation to be heard is hilarious. You were desperate to build a following on X and I for one unfollowed you due to your constant rants cluttering my feed. I then noticed that you unfollowed me who never posts just because. Funny stuff!.

For some reason you returned here after failing on X and have an audience of about 10..

Congrats to you and your parents on success. I do not begrudge others having greater actual or perceived success than me, Someone is always more successful. It’s life, try living it rather than being an angry dude all the time at the guy who gave you RDS and is out of power.
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So the Walton children are great businesspeople? Trump is a billionaire because in today’s dollars his father was one and handed him the company. He nearly destroyed it once, but he did better when he became a marketer. Note the Chicago project where Trump lost hundreds of millions involved actual performance, Trump not so good at that, much better at branding.

You voted for Trump in the primary. I don’t give a rat’s ass you think he’s better than Biden or not, I’m fine with that opinion. I’m not fine with (a) the GOP voters who can’t quit a freak show and (b) defending his indefensible behavior because you feel the need to justify your support.

If it were me and I were a Trump supporter, I’d say the guy sucks huge balls but is better on policy. It seems like more defensible than what every argument around here details, Trump’s character.
Yep, it is all personal with you - you are truly deranged. I posed one question of substance to you and you 100 percent avoided it. President Xi of China would do little different policy wise than Biden - flood America with illegals, limit oil and gas, kill coal, mandate all electric, use law fare against opponents, kill the culture, violate civil liberties, kick patriots out of the military for refusing to take an untested, unnecessary vax and so forth thereby killing future recruiting. Mission accomplished and you will vote for 4 more years of it. Take a look in the mirror, bud.

As for voting Trump in the primary? Hell, yes. It was OVER by the time Arizona rolled around. Zero point voting for Chris Christie or RDS who was long out. Should I vote for he war monger Nikki? Nope.
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The question is whether Trump a good businessman.

If he can't beat the S&P, then I believe he is not a very sharp businessman. I get he likes the attention and that is his motivation to work. Just because he likes to work does not mean he is any good at it.
I have pointed out the flaw in this numerous times. They do not account for a guy that flies around in a jumbo jet and lives the lifestyle of a billionaire. They do not account for divorce settlements. They just assume an inheritance that was never touched and compounded. That model works only in fantasyland.

Even with all of that said, he outperformed the S&P according to Forbes until about 2021.

People are easily sold some nonsense

I know when my net worth is calculated, I get a value for all of my restricted stock. So, if we add in his restricted stock he is probably up again. Subtract from the S&P model his high cost of living and settlements and it is probably not very close.

So, this liberal charade is mostly bogus.
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