We should never get this involved in these countries . It will cause more harm than good.
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He is probably correct. We are advising and backing the Kurds with about 1,000 men and equipment, that are in the East, we support the rebel faction from the south that was the first to enter Damascus. We obviously support Israel that is at the Heights. This offensive couldn't have taken place with out the U.S. providing the intelligence to allow it to happen. It destroyed the Syrian regime, is a giant defeat and embarrassment to Russia, and cripples Iran that has already been severely weakened.
Yes. The Russians just lost their only naval base on the Mediterranean. The issue is truly the aftermath. Who is going to control Syria? The Arab Spring didn’t turn out like the Obama Administration/Intelligence thought it would. They could create an entire nation run by Obama’s JV team.
Welp, looks like Time is racist AFWow,Trump Person of the Year and Caitlyn Clark Athlete of the Year. Time Magazine is getting it right.
What do you guys think the drones on the east coast are?
I tend to think they are craft being tested by the U.S. government / DOD. Reminds me of the early sightings of the stealth bomber before the government admitted their existence.
I tend to think they are craft being tested by the U.S. government / DOD. Reminds me of the early sightings of the stealth bomber before the government admitted their existence.
I guess you two prefer the Assad sadist regime stay in power and help Russia and Iran . Reasonable position.🤪
I'm just now picking up on that story.
The DoD has a lot of places to test such things much more discretely, and safely, than over populated coastal areas. My understanding is the craft are rather large, not like little hobby drones, so if one were to malfunction and crash into someone's home or something, it would be pretty bad.
It would seem more like they are being deployed for some purpose someone thinks is important enough to risk civilian injury rather than a new system being tested.
That no one seems to have an answer to what they are makes me think either they are not "ours", or they are the next phase of the intelligence agencies turning the Eye of Sauron inward on the citizenry. The former seems much more unlikely to me, although there are reports of people seeing them, in groups iirc, heading out to sea leading people to think they are ship-based. That in turn causes some people to suspect Iran, which has plenty of motivation to come after the US with drones.
People have also speculated that they are commercial, essentially mapping areas for drone-based deliveries and/or testing the delivery vehicles (one possible explanation for their size). If the former it seems like the flights would be during the day to get better image data of hazards. And in either case I'd think if they were commercial it would be much easier to determine what they are.
Possibly we'll find out in the latter part of January or shortly after. Of course if you look around enough you'll find the conspiracy theorists alleging the deep state is trying to accomplish something before the new sheriff hits town bringing a different philosophy concerning the roles of various facets of the executive branch. I've also heard that since the New Jersey sightings are in the vicinity of one of Trump's properties, that it might be the USSS doing something. But that doesn't explain alleged sightings in other regions.
It's an interesting story to follow, but most likely the explanation will be rather pedestrian in the end. A person would think the gov't would make providing an explanation to soothe people a top priority, but it wasn't that long ago they let a so-called spy balloon travel coast-to-coast before doing anything about it, so who knows.
Definitely some short-term gains from a US perspective, but at what cost in the long run? The answer is we don't know and similar happenings in the region have proved very expensive (and not just in terms of money, and with most of the cost falling on the people who ostensibly were 'helped'). Assad being gone is a good thing as far as that goes, but I hesitate seeing it as any kind of wider scale win until we see what coalesces in the power vacuum. It might turn out good, it might not.
After COVID, I don’t know how a person would think positively about our govt, and that govt looking to reassure people.
The fact that they aren’t saying anything, and are telling people not to worry, makes me believe it is our own government.
Some are showing videos of the drones spraying a liquid. Not sure if legit. But I don’t trust our govt, and don’t like this at all.
Don’t forget, COVID likely never happens without the US govt playing a role.
Social media nuttiness. Iran is not capable of defending their own country right now from air attack as Israel has taken out Iran's air defense systems. I don't think they have the capability nor the priority to fly drones over NJ rather than rebuilt their home defenses. Plus, if a foreign country was behind the drones, the US would be taking them down and at a minimum showing concern. The US isn't. I would think the US is testing.
That is a personal issue, characteristic to not trust. Covid was a world-wide pandemic, to blame that on the US govt is nutty.
Why would I trust the govt? They got exposed during COVID. Remember when they masked toddlers and told people to stay 6 feet apart. They made it all up.
You blindly trust your govt that shut down schools, parks, and beaches but left liquor stores and dispensaries open. A little healthy distrust doesn’t hurt anyone.
Fauci promised a virus, funded sketchy virus research, and then did everything to hide what caused the lab leak. He was part of the US govt.
Imagine still thinking COVID came from a bat. Imagine thinking I care what the person that said “the roads were empty” says about any of this.
I was only mentioning everything I've heard. I have some insight into how the US military tests things. It's not that way. They wouldn't even conduct "tests" over a wildlife sanctuary, much less a populated area. It could be they are gov't assets, but if so, they aren't testing. I mentioned the spy balloon because the US doesn't always shoot down adversarial assets in our air space promptly, at least the current administration. If you enjoy conspiracies, maybe it's a five eyes end around of US law. Could be lots of things. I'm like Rilla, I know better than to place blind faith in the gov't.
I don’t know if he’s a Christian but, reportedly, an American has been rescued from one of Assad’s prisons.
I would like to believe that, but they are scaring the people. If they were testing, it was successful and they should stop now. Unfortunately, they are expanding where they are “testing”. So your theory is possible. Could be testing for crowd control if something goes fishy on Jan 20.
Another theory is it’s Chinese/Iranian technology and they’ve also figured out how to hide their landing spots/mothership. Must have very sophisticated jammers. This theory is possible. It’s also believable, because Biden Admin let a balloon(s) scan our entire country prior to shooting it down once it went over the ocean. It still seems crazy though
The third theory is it’s aliens. Not sure it’s believable, but we will need Capt Steve Hiller and David Levinson to step up and save our collective butts, if true.
I lean towards it being China or Iran.
What is the personal issue, characteristic that caused @stoneaxe27 to believe the streets were empty in 2021? Was it over trust in govt entities?
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Florida saw 118 million visitors from out of state in 2021. LOL
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Florida saw 118 million visitors from out of state in 2021. LOL
I prefer every country and every person on earth to be able to live in freedom. Perhaps you could do something other than your normal grazing and actually address the multiple factions involved and how it’s unlikely a US type democracy happens.
Another lib who does not understand the FBI Director is not signed up for a 10 year term. Why does the media willfully lie? The FBI Director is limited to 10 years maximum in that position.
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Calmes: Christopher Wray just broke a prime rule of dealing with Donald Trump
For the good of the FBI and the nation, Christopher Wray should have forced Donald Trump to fire him.
What is a worse scenario than the sadist Assad regime, and its close ties to Russia giving Russia Naval and Air bases, and a conduit for Iran's evil? It is a win, stop trying so hard to see the down-side.
No, you are wrong. It is a 10 year term. Can be fired sooner for cause. Can be extended longer like Mueller.Another lib who does not understand the FBI Director is not signed up for a 10 year term. Why does the media willfully lie? The FBI Director is limited to 10 years maximum in that position.
Calmes: Christopher Wray just broke a prime rule of dealing with Donald Trump
For the good of the FBI and the nation, Christopher Wray should have forced Donald Trump to fire him.
Did they not? Was there any scientific reasoning behind toddler masking and people standing 6’ apart. Make sure it’s not 5’11”, it’s all about that 72nd inch. Science!
Agree with stoney on this one. Assad was absolutely hated by everyone except Iran, Russia, and Hezbollah. That should tell us something right there, not to mention killing civilians with nerve gas and chlorine.
I dunno, AQ taking over? I'd just suggest it's a little early to be running around declaring a complete victory. I'm neither clinging to an upside nor a downside at this point. I learned not to do that after they took down Hussein in Iraq.
Wrong as usual. Congress passed a law in 1968 that put the FBI Director into the hands of the President with Congressional approval. In 1976 Congress passed a law permitting an FBI Director to serve up to a 10 year term. Forgetting the interims, Kelley, Webster, Sessions (William), and Freeh never lasted a full 10 years. The range was anywhere from 5-9 years. Mueller is the only one to serve 10 years, and he got an extra 2. Thanks, Obama. Either way, you told a whopper and the Press is telling a whopper. They are chosen by Presidents and approved through advise and consent of the Senate.
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Britain indefinitely bans puberty blockers for children with gender dysphoria
The British government has indefinitely banned puberty blockers for children with gender dysphoria after independent experts found there was an unacceptable safety risk in prescribing the medication
“Unacceptable safety risk”
The political left needs to abandon their position on “trans kids”, or they will be left behind by the rest of the sane world.
People of the future will be horrified when they read about us neutering kids that were going through difficult times.
The neocon idea of nation-building and exporting US style democracy has been a total failure. No one is defending Assad, stonedhead. Deep State orchestrated a coup in Ukraine. All they have done since is get Ukraine in a war they can’t win and are only hanging on with US money we don’t have. Iraq didn’t work. Afghanistan didn’t work. The Soviet Union didn’t work. Who would have thought that a group of people who were always ruled by kings and subsequently brutal communist dictators would all of a sudden when freed understand how to use that freedom and excel in a democracy?
The British are a little late to the party compared to some other European countries.Britain indefinitely bans puberty blockers for children with gender dysphoria
The British government has indefinitely banned puberty blockers for children with gender dysphoria after independent experts found there was an unacceptable safety risk in prescribing the medicationabcnews.go.com
“Unacceptable safety risk”
The political left needs to abandon their position on “trans kids”, or they will be left behind by the rest of the sane world.
People of the future will be horrified when they read about us neutering kids that were going through difficult times.
This isn’t going to work this time.
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"I have the power to make you wait 20 minutes to get your entree."
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You're right, there aren't many examples of democratic countries being created out of dictatorships... but they do exist. These come to mind: Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania in the Baltics. Slovenia and probably Croatia out of the former Yugoslavia. Even some (certainly not all) of the former Soviet republics are somewhat democratic.
No doubt there's a danger of Syria becoming a reconstituted AQ or ISIS. However, it's different in this situation as they also have to become a sovereign state. It could end up as another Afghanistan but I think the probability of that happening is low. There are too many other countries around Syria that have a deep interest in seeing that doesn't happen: Turkiye (I think that's how they spell it now), Israel, and Jordan to name three. There was no corollary to those surrounding Afghanistan.
Did these steps or any of the other tangents you went on about in your previous post cause Covid, cause millions of deaths. Of course not. They were attempts at dealing with an unknown pandemic.
The Middle East is a region where "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" just doesn't work. Even in cases where it might, it's still loaded with danger. There are too many groups at odds with each other. Now if the Kurds and Turks could ever patch things up then a lot of other things could more easily fall inline (IMHO).
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